Envoy: The LOWEST paid Wholly Owned.
07-17-2019, 05:15 AM
#173
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Originally Posted by Varsity
The cadets are basically hired pilots.
How does the union not have access to them?
How does the union not have access to them?
This.
When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.
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07-17-2019, 06:03 AM
#174
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
This.
When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.
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When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.
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07-17-2019, 08:24 AM
#176
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
07-17-2019, 09:27 AM
#178
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
Did he end up doing the right thing?
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Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.
Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.
07-17-2019, 09:36 AM
#179
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Since this was from 4 years ago I'm assuming that yes, they did get the raise, and probably another since.
Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.
Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.
Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.
Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.
Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.
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07-17-2019, 09:44 AM
#180
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.
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50k for 1-2 students that fail per class is nothing when you're saving over $1 million every 2 weeks underpaying your pilots
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