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Old 07-16-2019 | 06:39 PM
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The cadets are basically hired pilots.

How does the union not have access to them?
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Old 07-16-2019 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by martyByrde
So what’s next? More cooling down? 🙄



Chillin like a villain?
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Old 07-17-2019 | 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
The cadets are basically hired pilots.



How does the union not have access to them?


This.

When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.


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Old 07-17-2019 | 06:03 AM
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This.

When I was a cadet they never gave me ANY resources. One could argue “that’s cause they don’t pay dues” well what about probationary pilots? They don’t pay dues and yet get all the emails and everything. If they really wanted to reach cadets then they can so I believe that’s upon the union to carry out.


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The union has tried to access them. The company has blocked them claiming they are a separate work group.
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Old 07-17-2019 | 07:33 AM
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Why can't we do something like this

https://youtu.be/z7rjtBntPWg
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Old 07-17-2019 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Why can't we do something like this

https://youtu.be/z7rjtBntPWg
Finding anyone other than swayne to go on camera and be nice like that would be impossible.
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Old 07-17-2019 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by rld1k
Finding anyone other than swayne to go on camera and be nice like that would be impossible.


Did he end up doing the right thing?


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Old 07-17-2019 | 09:27 AM
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Did he end up doing the right thing?


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Since this was from 4 years ago I'm assuming that yes, they did get the raise, and probably another since.

Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.

Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.
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Old 07-17-2019 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MEGAFUPM
Since this was from 4 years ago I'm assuming that yes, they did get the raise, and probably another since.



Look at my previous post, a 3 year AA FA makes the same as a first year FO here. It's pretty sad when I'm sitting with an FO for a deadhead and we hear them complaining about how little they're paid only to chime in the conversation and find this out.



Especially sad considering an FO needs 1500 hours and the majority have a bachelor's degree with massive debt and/or also have previous military experience.


Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.


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Old 07-17-2019 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by UncreativeUser
Yeah it’s pretty bad but we’ve made good progress in the industry as a whole, this raise needs to keep up with that trend otherwise we seriously are going to be bringing in some sketchy prospects who will never make it through training. Which means the company spends 50k for essentially nothing. So with that being said a year 3 FA making as much if not more than an FO with 150k of debt is alarming to say the least.


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50k for 1-2 students that fail per class is nothing when you're saving over $1 million every 2 weeks underpaying your pilots
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