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10-20-2019 | 07:08 PM

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Cujo665

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I’m not sure what the issue with Omni then, since there’s an FO at Spirit ( that I’ve flown with a couple of times) who was a 6 year CA there, and is now a commuter.

Their old contract prior to 2018 was not good and people got out when they could. The attrition now is very little, mostly retirements. I’ve only gone up about 30 numbers in two years. With the new CBA and QOL improvements guys aren’t leaving for LCC’s anymore unless they live in their base. Even then it’s not the CA’s leaving.

It definitely isn’t for everybody, but for many it’s a diamond in the rough.

10-24-2019 | 04:27 AM

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Spirit just announced an order for an additional 100x Airbus aircraft (320neo) with options for an addition 50x aircraft. Spirit will be needing to hire an additional 2,700+ pilots with upgrades currently around 3 years.

7 to 9 year flow to AA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

10-24-2019 | 09:49 AM

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What’s better, three years as a CA at MQ, or three years as an FO at TK?

10-24-2019 | 10:04 AM

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What’s better, three years as a CA at MQ, or three years as an FO at TK?

If you have the PIC time then FO at NK for sure. $35ish more an hour, better contract, and a 3year FO at NK wouldn't be on RSV.

10-24-2019 | 10:08 AM

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What’s better, three years as a CA at MQ, or three years as an FO at TK?

You talking TK or NK???

Depends where you are coming from, what your end state is and how much time you have. Second year pay alone will make up the difference of first year pay loss vs captain at a regional. QOL is something you have to judge for yourself. Timeframe makes a difference as well. Upgrade at Spirit in anything less than five years you’re better off than what you can do at a major, especially if you are too old to have longevity to make it to the bigger metal.

01-10-2020 | 07:18 AM

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Spirit just finalized their order for an additional 100 A320neo series jets.

People ought to take note of AA's financial situation, then note the remarkable success and growth of Spirit in the previous recession. Looks like ancillary revenue creates a more stable business model. Don't believe me? Even Forbes recently put out an article analyzing the ULCC business model and concluded these carriers will be more resilient during a recession.

01-10-2020 | 11:20 AM

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In the words of Curly Bill Brocious “Well, Bye”.

01-10-2020 | 12:40 PM

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Not for everyone. That’s for sure, but one person’s trash is another’s treasure.

Exactly. No cargo, just pax. Best kept secret in 121.
At my age, I’d go to an LCC only if I lived in base. I’m done with commuting and Crashpads.

01-10-2020 | 12:41 PM

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If you have the PIC time then FO at NK for sure. $35ish more an hour, better contract, and a 3year FO at NK wouldn't be on RSV.

3 year FO would be by choice due to QOL. Since upgrade is around 2 years and 9 months, and will probably drop a couple of months. The latest hiring number for 2020 is 600 NH and 342 upgrades. We’re expecting 21 A320neo this year and 27 next year.

01-10-2020 | 03:08 PM

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Any serious idea when you all are going to have AQP up and running across the board? I have been flying long enough to remember taking all my check rides as non-aqp but having gone through the aqp program at Envoy I would hate to have to go back to the old ways, lol.

again, not enough to stop be from coming over if offered the job but just curious.