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Old 02-13-2020 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
My sources tell me it really was that. No need to see conspiracies where none really exist.
Agree, the company isn’t that smart.
Old 02-14-2020 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
This isn't entirely accurate, is it?
There has never been a policy when a block of MA's are considered a single event. Especially when they are just before your scheduled vacation block. And even more so after posting pictures from Disney during those missed days.

And you're also skipping the last part of the story.
You sure have a lot to say about this for a FO barely off probation...
Old 02-14-2020 | 09:28 AM
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^Captain Co-Pilots know bro...or management🤔 #imapilot
Old 02-14-2020 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by SparrowBird
Who wears David Clark's at an airline?
Ask this guy:
https://www.envoyair.com/2016/09/14/now-offering-industry-leading-pay-to-new-pilots/
Old 02-14-2020 | 01:22 PM
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Maybe envoy should include headsets with the luggage they give new cadets .
Old 02-14-2020 | 06:02 PM
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If management found a way to help out KS it wouldn't be the first time.

Lots of people wear DCs here. They don't pay us enough to afford Bose and those of us on the jungle jet need something with a good NRR to deal with the constant whooshing sound. Sometimes I like to close my eyes and pretend I'm on a 757-200 going .86.
Old 02-14-2020 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
If management found a way to help out KS it wouldn't be the first time.
I'm sure it wouldn't, but it was not the case. No point to spin that, it's just not true.
Old 02-14-2020 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
Sometimes I like to close my eyes and pretend I'm on a 757-200 going .86.
Old 02-14-2020 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
WHOOSH
das it mane

although judging by them epps that guy is already flying something quieter
Old 02-14-2020 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
No, there wasn't. There was a pattern of harassment of union officials by the company. There was taking a vacation and them not allowing a vacation slide, PO, PVD, PE or anything else to cover the few days that weren't covered by vacation time.

Rule #2 of the company says not to be away from work without providing notice. Notice was provided in person that I would not be there the days that were not covered. Therefore the rule was not violated. Rule #2 also says three or more missed assignments is grounds for termination. While the Chief Pilots office could not tell me what the punishment would be for a missed assignment, (not plural since he expected - as I did - that the block of days would be treated as one event) they were fully aware I wouldn't be there those days.

The company policy has steps of discipline. I was fully prepared for the appropriate discipline to keep my family commitment. Between work and the rush of union work, the bankruptcy and CBA negotiations that year, I missed almost every family event of the year. That vacation was also a family reunion. Missing it was not an option if staying married was important.

The company decided to record the single block of missed assignments as separate events each day, rather than as a single event for the block of days which is how they do sick time, missed blocks of 4 day trips and so on. In my case, they recorded them separately and used Rule #2 saying I had three or more consecutive MA's.
They then violated their progressive discipline policy again and said take a CDD or termination. With a family to feed on the meager Eagle wages, I took the CDD for one year. I'm sure being a commuter they expected me to have a MA within the year. Didn't happen.

I could list the many times they removed me from flying to "investigate" violations that they could have resolved with a phone call, or a stop by the CP office. Nope, they'd rather put the PW (paid withheld from service - in other words suspended from flight duty) on your record many times to help their fabricated cases later. They even left one in my file after I gave them documentation proving them wrong, including AA D2 records showing I arrived ready for duty well in advance of a report time.

Eagle/Envoy has fired 4 different union MEC members. One was fired 7 times. Two were fired two times (includes me) and one was fired once. During the heated contract negotiations of 2013-2015 there were two of the seven MEC members fired. Coincidentally these were the two MEC reps who most actively fought for the pilots and against company abuses.

It was still a good company. It still is today. The few executives and managers who take things personally are the biggest problem there. The coworkers were and are some of the best aviators and friends I have ever known. The camaraderie and friendships I made there have endured to this day. I still have many friends there, many in management (though they don't publicly admit it) and many who like myself have moved on to better jobs.

MEGAFUPM, I hope this answered your questions. If not feel free to PM me.
by any chance was Chris Warren involves with this?
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