I'm not calling him out, I just said he missed out the important part from his post. And we're leaving it at that if he doesn't want to disclose the rest. This was all 3-5 years ago anyway, so it's not important any more.

 

Gotta agree with Dera on this. Yes he was targeted, not that I agree with that. But he wasn’t as clean as he makes himself out to be either.

In my experience having done contract compliance, it never ends well when someone is constantly trying to sharpshoot with the contract, eventually you’re going to run out of accuracy.

 

Way out of whack!

 

probably because I was not terminated for the MA vacation mess. The whole story takes about 300 typed pages.

They expected me to have a commuting MA during the CDD period. Never happened. Then before the CDD expired they did terminate for four cases of alleged sick time abuse 11 months after the CDD. I arrived with medical records, they said they don’t need to see the medical records, you’re fired. I was back 1.5 months later. Administrative law judge said it was the most egregious termination he’d seen in 22 years. 1 was an ear infection. One was bronchitis. Another was pneumonia. The fourth one I didn’t go see the doctor. They refused to even look at the medical records. How effed up is that?

6 months after that one they discharged again over a miscommunication. Tried to clarify and their response was we aren’t here for an explanation, we are here to discharge you. It was a typo of the effective date of a resignation from union position. They said I lied. They also said I lied about involvement in Charlie Bucket. At the very most it was a miscommunication, but they wouldn’t listen.
Never trust your job to an arbiter. Never stick your neck out at Envoy to fight for other pilots. You will get targeted, harassed and repeatedly fired.

That is the the extremely short version cut down to just the basics.

not sure what you’ve been told, but I’d be happy to let you read the paperwork. Decide for yourself.

EVERY employer that interviewed me and took the time and read the paperwork offered me the job I was there for. Every single one.

 

I didn’t miss anything. I responded to somebody who asked about the vacation

not important? You’re working with a management team with a well established track record of targeting and harassing union officials who don’t let them steam roll the pilots.
They fired one Rep 7 times
they fired another twice
they fired me twice
they fired a fourth once

The message is clear.

 

Like I said, lots more to the story than what you were originally saying.

Let's just leave it at that, no point to wash old dirty laundry in public.
Things were very different back then.

 

And you think they’re different now at any of the WO? All 3 are crap holes. PSA’s dirty laundry just isn’t on APC.

 

Dera I have come to appreciate you on these forums, a far cry from the days of old, however I have to say I am on Cujo's side with this one. Even though there may be more to the story, this guy fought and fought hard for his fellow pilots. If there were some deliberate jabs at the contract/company while in this position, well they deserved it.

What management got away with, or rather tried to get away with back than was nothing short of horrible. If I have to take a side in this fight, it will be with the guy who had a proven track record of helping pilots out and fighting for them. I hope you do the same in your new role.

 

Like I said before, we need real men in our Union, not boys that live in their parents basement/garage, that are battling acne.

 

Is Karim still an union rep? Asking for a friend