Envoy 2020
05-30-2020 | 11:35 AM
#581
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During the bankruptcy they had to open their books. (computer records really) Envoy consistently earns them around $100M a year. The 10 year low was around $75M and the high was around $114M, IIRC.
Regardless if AA does the flight, or AE does the flight, the profit ends up back at AAG. You better believe they know exactly where the money comes from, or goes to. In many of the years AA ran at a loss, while AE ran at an - on paper - profit. The combined from all revenue streams was still negative. At the time of the bankruptcy, AA had a negative cash flow, and AE had a $93M profit that year.
Regardless if AA does the flight, or AE does the flight, the profit ends up back at AAG. You better believe they know exactly where the money comes from, or goes to. In many of the years AA ran at a loss, while AE ran at an - on paper - profit. The combined from all revenue streams was still negative. At the time of the bankruptcy, AA had a negative cash flow, and AE had a $93M profit that year.
05-30-2020 | 12:24 PM
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During the bankruptcy they had to open their books. (computer records really) Envoy consistently earns them around $100M a year. The 10 year low was around $75M and the high was around $114M, IIRC.
Regardless if AA does the flight, or AE does the flight, the profit ends up back at AAG. You better believe they know exactly where the money comes from, or goes to. In many of the years AA ran at a loss, while AE ran at an - on paper - profit. The combined from all revenue streams was still negative. At the time of the bankruptcy, AA had a negative cash flow, and AE had a $93M profit that year.
Regardless if AA does the flight, or AE does the flight, the profit ends up back at AAG. You better believe they know exactly where the money comes from, or goes to. In many of the years AA ran at a loss, while AE ran at an - on paper - profit. The combined from all revenue streams was still negative. At the time of the bankruptcy, AA had a negative cash flow, and AE had a $93M profit that year.
05-30-2020 | 12:32 PM
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Their pilot page was talking about it. If one knows how to use airportal it appears that Republic will be flying to ATL, CLE, DTW, IND, MEM, MSP, OMA, RIC SDF, & XNA from ORD. Hopefully, they are just pushed over to L20-24 and left out on the stinger.
05-30-2020 | 12:44 PM
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Probably just being moved up from MIA since AAG is already paying for that flying, but there is not enough demand in MIA to keep them busy. When MIA traffic returns to normal, I'd suspect that Republic will be sent back down there.
05-30-2020 | 12:57 PM
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If one knows how to use airportal it appears that Republic will be flying to ATL, CLE, DTW, IND, MEM, MSP, OMA, RIC SDF, & XNA from ORD
A lot of those are 145 markets. I can’t imagine demand dictating an up gauge just yet.
AAG planning is either super secret geniuses, or blind monkeys throwing darts.
A lot of those are 145 markets. I can’t imagine demand dictating an up gauge just yet.
AAG planning is either super secret geniuses, or blind monkeys throwing darts.
05-30-2020 | 02:03 PM
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If one knows how to use airportal it appears that Republic will be flying to ATL, CLE, DTW, IND, MEM, MSP, OMA, RIC SDF, & XNA from ORD
A lot of those are 145 markets. I can’t imagine demand dictating an up gauge just yet.
AAG planning is either super secret geniuses, or blind monkeys throwing darts.
A lot of those are 145 markets. I can’t imagine demand dictating an up gauge just yet.
AAG planning is either super secret geniuses, or blind monkeys throwing darts.
05-30-2020 | 08:22 PM
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If one knows how to use airportal it appears that Republic will be flying to ATL, CLE, DTW, IND, MEM, MSP, OMA, RIC SDF, & XNA from ORD
A lot of those are 145 markets. I can’t imagine demand dictating an up gauge just yet.
AAG planning is either super secret geniuses, or blind monkeys throwing darts.
A lot of those are 145 markets. I can’t imagine demand dictating an up gauge just yet.
AAG planning is either super secret geniuses, or blind monkeys throwing darts.
05-30-2020 | 09:37 PM
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All of those destinations were long time CRJ, and now E75, destinations for Envoy. Many of those cities need two cabin ships for premium travelers. This is indicative of a shift in where our E75 go, but where to? Also, how are we going to fit our existing E75 fleet in ORD if all these Republic ships come in needing the same gates (since we’re not going to fit over on G)? All interesting questions...
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