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Old 08-16-2020 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
AA replaced a lot of 900s with 145s. These have been slowly returning to the 900. I agree that if demand doesn’t increase AA could cut Mesa to nothing letting the CPA simply expire with no negative repercussions. Fact is, pre Covid that ENY was flying 737 max routes and Mesa was flying 175 routes. It’s all unnecessary now.
FYI, that flying was given away because Mesa refused to let AAG not pay them for last second canceled flights because of low bookings, because the pilots are pay protected for cancellations. So AAG decided to put those flights on a carrier that agreed to wave the payment for a flight canceled by AAG the morning of.
Old 08-16-2020 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by terks43
FYI, that flying was given away because Mesa refused to let AAG not pay them for last second canceled flights because of low bookings, because the pilots are pay protected for cancellations. So AAG decided to put those flights on a carrier that agreed to wave the payment for a flight canceled by AAG the morning of.
FYI, that is not what happened.
Old 08-16-2020 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
FYI, that is not what happened.
I’ll bite. Something drastic happened to June flying and multiple sources said it was a DP JO BR tiff over cares money and cancel fees. If that’s not what happened then what did then?
Old 08-16-2020 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by terks43
FYI, that flying was given away because Mesa refused to let AAG not pay them for last second canceled flights because of low bookings, because the pilots are pay protected for cancellations. So AAG decided to put those flights on a carrier that agreed to wave the payment for a flight canceled by AAG the morning of.
You must be on drugs. Envoy pilots are pay protected for cancellations. Nice try though.

What’s your next doozy? Mesa is the premier regional airline in the United States?
Old 08-16-2020 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
FYI, that is not what happened.
soooooo, tell us what the tiff was and the outcome, then.
Old 08-16-2020 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
What’s your next doozy? Mesa is the premier regional airline in the United States?
no way! Envoy is. Mesa is the worst.
Old 08-17-2020 | 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by normalperson
no way! Envoy is. Mesa is the worst.
envoy is far from the best. The only good things we really have are commuter hotels, Captain pay upon bid award, and unrestricted overtime.
Old 08-17-2020 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
envoy is far from the best. The only good things we really have are commuter hotels, Captain pay upon bid award, and unrestricted overtime.
Is Captain pay on bid award still a thing now? They pulled the five hour override for accepting a seat lock for displacements. Not that there were many new ones, this last time anyway, not will there be for a while. New captains that is. Not going to see displacements to captain for a long time again.
Old 08-17-2020 | 04:46 AM
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Additionally, the 5 hours of pay for a voluntary seat lock is in the contract. The company cancelled everyone’s seat lock a few months back negating the 5 hours of pay everyone was receiving. Anyone who was displaced requiring training on the last bid would have been able to select a voluntary seat lock for pay.
Old 08-17-2020 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NotChewbacca
Additionally, the 5 hours of pay for a voluntary seat lock is in the contract. The company cancelled everyone’s seat lock a few months back negating the 5 hours of pay everyone was receiving. Anyone who was displaced requiring training on the last bid would have been able to select a voluntary seat lock for pay.
I believe you have to have been displaced to a captain position to volunteer for seat lock.
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