Hiring question
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The reason most people stay at Envoy and in the WO’s that the training is not the best so they have higher failure rates and therefore are stuck until they flow. You will get better training, QOL and pay at SkyWest, they also are affiliated with more legacies, your chances getting hired OTS are quadrupled.
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Well since I wouldn't be working for regionals anytime before 2022 dont you think that things will speed up even more since theres so many more retirements coming up in the next 10+ years. I'm ok with doing 5 to 7 years at the regionals more than that would be a bit too much.
Bottom line is unless AA and Envoy up flow numbers Envoy will be hiring many more than flowing. That means the only way for flow time to decrease is through MASSIVE outside attrition.
It is simple math. Every thing else is just smoke and mirrors KoolAid colored BS rhetoric.
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you have to read a little deeper. The whole contention here is that aa is slated to hire something like 40-50% more this year, yet flow is decreasing by one third. In the distant past it has been as high as nearly two thirds of aa hires were envoy, not even counting psa and piedmont, flow. This year envoy flow will barely be 12-15% of aa hires.
Bottom line is unless aa and envoy up flow numbers envoy will be hiring many more than flowing. That means the only way for flow time to decrease is through massive outside attrition.
It is simple math. Every thing else is just smoke and mirrors koolaid colored bs rhetoric.
Bottom line is unless aa and envoy up flow numbers envoy will be hiring many more than flowing. That means the only way for flow time to decrease is through massive outside attrition.
It is simple math. Every thing else is just smoke and mirrors koolaid colored bs rhetoric.
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The reason most people stay at Envoy and in the WO’s that the training is not the best so they have higher failure rates and therefore are stuck until they flow. You will get better training, QOL and pay at SkyWest, they also are affiliated with more legacies, your chances getting hired OTS are quadrupled.
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The reason most people stay at Envoy and in the WO’s that the training is not the best so they have higher failure rates and therefore are stuck until they flow. You will get better training, QOL and pay at SkyWest, they also are affiliated with more legacies, your chances getting hired OTS are quadrupled.
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I dont think its realy more likely to get hired out of Skywest over any other regional. Looking at the APC profile if they have over 5000 pilots that just means they will keep showing up in newhire classes everywhere, but that does not mean that the chance for an individual to get hired is any better. Whats on the resume/job app matters more.
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The reason most people stay at Envoy and in the WO’s that the training is not the best so they have higher failure rates and therefore are stuck until they flow. You will get better training, QOL and pay at SkyWest, they also are affiliated with more legacies, your chances getting hired OTS are quadrupled.
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