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Old 05-28-2020 | 11:21 PM
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Swayne gets furloughed and his next video to potential airline pilots is just a black screen that says “Denied due to staffing” for however long it takes for a YouTube video to get monetized.

Everyone at hq that would have said something about the video gets laid off, so the video stays up indefinitely.



Idk much about financials, I’m just a pilot.
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Old 05-29-2020 | 06:51 AM
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The poll clearly shows that the optimistic people outnumber the pessimists here 2 to 1 lol
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Old 05-29-2020 | 08:57 AM
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I’m actually hoping they furlough or at least offer a long term leave
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Old 05-29-2020 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by teamflyer
I’m actually hoping they furlough or at least offer a long term leave
unfortunately they are displacing a lot of instructors in the schoolhouse...they need all the pilots they can get on the line...lot of flying(from MESA & AA) coming your way.
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Old 05-29-2020 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by nootpilot
unfortunately they are displacing a lot of instructors in the schoolhouse...they need all the pilots they can get on the line...lot of flying(from MESA & AA) coming your way.
They can run a voluntary leave or furlough and hope only senior folks take a leave so they can pay peanuts to junior guys
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Old 05-29-2020 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by teamflyer
I’m actually hoping they furlough or at least offer a long term leave
I'm assuming that first part was sarcasm?
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Old 05-29-2020 | 07:18 PM
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you're missing the big picture - aal is envoy right now with some mainline thrown in. Probably the key to survival will be the WO regionals and others.
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Old 05-29-2020 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoiler
you're missing the big picture - aal is envoy right now with some mainline thrown in. Probably the key to survival will be the WO regionals and others.
That RIGHT THERE ... 100 percent to the point.
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Old 05-30-2020 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by teamflyer
They can run a voluntary leave or furlough and hope only senior folks take a leave so they can pay peanuts to junior guys
Lol this isn't mainline. A 20 year captain doesn't really make much more than a 1 year captain when you look at the entire industry standards.
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Old 05-30-2020 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by UnprotectdPilot
I am speculating here, but I doubt there will be any consolidation among the AA WO regionals unless it's forced in bankruptcy court. I think AA likes being able to drive labor costs down by pitting labor groups against each other (aka 'the whipsaw').

I just hope they offer extended leaves of absences well in advance of any cuts they make so people can start making plans sooner than later. There's no way we're keeping everyone on board unless travel rebounds significantly. I don't know what that threshold is, but I'd suspect it'd have to be greater than 80% of last year's travel numbers this fall to justify not cutting jobs.

Keep an eye on the TSA's traveler checkpoint numbers this summer, it will be telling as to what Envoy and AAG may be doing October 1st.
They do not need three WO to whipsaw.
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