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jetflyer123 06-27-2020 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3081048)
Might want to have a chat with TheKooj, as he "knows" people at the highest levels of Envoy/AA, not to mention this entire Covid-19 thing would "burn out" mid summer.

In all seriousness though, I think most of us around here expect a three year slow down to their career/flow. Thank you for the details.

Hopefully for everyone it comes back quicker, and retirements will help some. The problem still lies in the fact that DP just reiterated a couple days ago in a crew news that we are going to emerge from this as a much smaller airline which means those retirements will be used temporarily to reduce our size and won’t be replaced with new hires. I hope it turns around quick and you guys can start sending pilots over again sooner rather than later.

ninerdriver 06-27-2020 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by jetflyer123 (Post 3081716)
Hopefully for everyone it comes back quicker, and retirements will help some. The problem still lies in the fact that DP just reiterated a couple days ago in a crew news that we are going to emerge from this as a much smaller airline which means those retirements will be used temporarily to reduce our size and won’t be replaced with new hires. I hope it turns around quick and you guys can start sending pilots over again sooner rather than later.

DP is gonna be lucky if AA emerges as an airline, nevermind as a smaller one.

NoValueAviator 06-27-2020 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by ninerdriver (Post 3081749)
DP is gonna be lucky if AA emerges as an airline, nevermind as a smaller one.

AA doesn’t fit the model of a business that ceases to exist as a going concern. It certainly does seem to be on course for bankruptcy though as it slowly submerges in debt.

ClappedOut145 06-28-2020 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by AB321Driver (Post 3080421)
It will be at least another year for the Flow to restart.

I bet we don't see another flow until well into 2022. We should get a board going and sell squares.

tommy2times 06-28-2020 04:47 PM

How many furloughs are we expecting at The Envoy? Rumors and numbers?

3GreenKSNA 06-28-2020 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 3082673)
How many furloughs are we expecting at The Envoy? Rumors and numbers?

250-300 my guess

Isn't there a magic number of how long people need to be gone before the cost of bringing them back is justified by their being furloughed?

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smtx123 06-28-2020 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA (Post 3082677)
250-300 my guess

Isn't there a magic number of how long people need to be gone before the cost of bringing them back is justified by their being furloughed?

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I’ve heard 18 months.

Freighthotdog 06-28-2020 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by smtx123 (Post 3082729)
I’ve heard 18 months.

I’ve heard one year

dera 06-28-2020 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Freighthotdog (Post 3082770)
I’ve heard one year

I've heard 2 weeks.

HalyardJammer 06-28-2020 10:29 PM

This is so dumb, furloughs are being talked about yet I was told no leaves of absence in the future, I had something lined up.


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