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tommy2times 06-29-2020 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 3082794)
This is so dumb, furloughs are being talked about yet I was told no leaves of absence in the future, I had something lined up.

Lined up? Cleaner at a porn shoot site? :D

teamflyer 06-29-2020 01:30 PM

Will they offer voluntary lay offs. I wouldn't mind being laid off so a junior guy can keep his job

3GreenKSNA 06-29-2020 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by teamflyer (Post 3083045)
Will they offer voluntary lay offs. I wouldn't mind being laid off so a junior guy can keep his job

They usually offer a leave of absence to save jobs.

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SilentLurker 06-29-2020 03:45 PM

Where is Charlie Bucket?
 

Originally Posted by HalyardJammer (Post 3082794)
This is so dumb, furloughs are being talked about yet I was told no leaves of absence in the future, I had something lined up.


Sorry to hear! No one really knows the truth, the way or the path to recovery, it’s all a moving target, always do what is in your best interest.

FYI... It’s called being “envoyed” if ur screwed while trusting the company.

teamflyer 06-30-2020 09:07 AM

Check your emails....

uavking 06-30-2020 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by teamflyer (Post 3083364)
Email is out, 15% lay offs at a minimum, and displacements and downgrades are a must. ENVOYED!!

If you're surprised at a 15%+ figure, you must not have been paying attention to the industry or economy since March. That's not getting Envoyed, that's the airline business.

ClappedOut145 06-30-2020 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by teamflyer (Post 3083364)
Email is out, 15% lay offs at a minimum, and displacements and downgrades are a must. ENVOYED!!

That's not what the email said. It said the fleet projection is 15% smaller. That absolutely does not mean 15% of the pilots will be on furlough.

MqWhistleblower 06-30-2020 09:26 AM

Just remember that we are flying under a bankruptcy contract. SAY NO TO CONCESSIONS

highfarfast 06-30-2020 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3083371)
That's not what the email said. It said the fleet projection is 15% smaller. That absolutely doe not mean 15% of the pilots will be on furlough.

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Pilot furloughs are expensive, it's entirely possible they decide that pilot furloughs are worth it and it's better to be a little fat on pilots for a little while, particularly when looking at the retirements that are coming. And while I recognize that's the positive spin, it's still a realistic possibility. Nobody knows yet what the real answer is and I'm sure while the company is talking to the union about 'solutions' the company message is going to be that 'it's bad'.

MqWhistleblower 06-30-2020 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3083380)
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Pilot furloughs are expensive, it's entirely possible they decide that pilot furloughs are worth it and it's better to be a little fat on pilots for a little while, particularly when looking at the retirements that are coming. And while I recognize that's the positive spin, it's still a realistic possibility. Nobody knows yet what the real answer is and I'm sure while the company is talking to the union about 'solutions' the company message is going to be that 'it's bad'.

Envoy being fat on pilots? I have never seen that. They’d rather burn the reserve pilots/JM etc. than being fat on pilots. We’re talking about a company who rather be retroactive than proactive.


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