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martyByrde 08-01-2020 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Elismcpikle (Post 3103512)
imagine doing it for 12, flow, then get kicked in the grill when tossed on the st.... yay flow!!!!

not going to lie, it can be a depressing industry to work in.

Gooch 08-01-2020 08:26 PM

Rucker is hiring like crazy. Just saying. It is what it is but year 1 is about to be over 100k with a good schedule, weekends/all holidays/donsas off. Making more now than as a 5 year captain. If one were to take the VLOA and have this gig, good coin. Not every rtp guys choice but was nice to get. Rotor jobs are out there.

moonraker9 08-02-2020 04:39 AM

I know this is far out of the question right now, but how would these 5 year voluntary furloughs affect hiring at Envoy? Would all of those people have to be recalled first before a single person is hired on?

teamflyer 08-02-2020 04:48 AM

And what does it mean after 1 year, we can request to come back with a 30 day notice? We can just tell them we are coming coming back after 1 year, no questions asked? Even if they are not hiring?

THKooj 08-02-2020 05:29 AM


Originally Posted by Gooch (Post 3103566)
Rucker is hiring like crazy. Just saying. It is what it is but year 1 is about to be over 100k with a good schedule, weekends/all holidays/donsas off. Making more now than as a 5 year captain. If one were to take the VLOA and have this gig, good coin. Not every rtp guys choice but was nice to get. Rotor jobs are out there.

Serious question for all you RTP guys. Are all of you planning to take this 5 year LOA? I'm asking because from everyone of your posts it is very evident that Envoy/American is just a way station for you and you really aren't interested in being here.

Seriously, no disrespect here but I've observed many, many in the training cycle and by far, for whatever reason, you guys struggle the most. The large majority of you get through but I believe it's the pipeline training program the cadets come from that has them ready on the first day of training. I'm not discounting your military service, I appreciate it as I have a military background myself. However, in the end in addition to the training problems, it seems that you really just aren't interested in being here. Thus my question on this possible opportunity for you to get back into something that obviously pays well and may be more suited to your comfort zone.

But seriously 08-02-2020 05:36 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3103649)
Serious question for all you RTP guys. Are all of you planning to take this 5 year LOA? I'm asking because from everyone of your posts it is very evident that Envoy/American is just a way station for you and you really aren't interested in being here.

Seriously, no disrespect here but I've observed many, many in the training cycle and by far, for whatever reason, you guys struggle the most. The large majority of you get through but I believe it's the pipeline training program the cadets come from that has them ready on the first day of training. I'm not discounting your military service, I appreciate it as I have a military background myself. However, in the end in addition to the training problems, it seems that you really just aren't interested in being here. Thus my question on this possible opportunity for you to get back into something that obviously pays well and may be more suited to your comfort zone.

Anyone who engages on this post is just giving him what he wants. Don’t feed the troll.

Cyio 08-02-2020 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by But seriously (Post 3103655)
Anyone who engages on this post is just giving him what he wants. Don’t feed the troll.

Agreed. I almost took the bait, but not this time. He is almost making it too easy now.

Spoiler 08-02-2020 06:38 AM

Offering the LOA gets the company off the hook for unemployment insurance responsibility.
Plenty of oppty's in China I'm thinking in the meantime ;)

pitchattitude 08-02-2020 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by THKooj (Post 3103649)
Serious question for all you RTP guys. Are all of you planning to take this 5 year LOA? I'm asking because from everyone of your posts it is very evident that Envoy/American is just a way station for you and you really aren't interested in being here.

Seriously, no disrespect here but I've observed many, many in the training cycle and by far, for whatever reason, you guys struggle the most. The large majority of you get through but I believe it's the pipeline training program the cadets come from that has them ready on the first day of training. I'm not discounting your military service, I appreciate it as I have a military background myself. However, in the end in addition to the training problems, it seems that you really just aren't interested in being here. Thus my question on this possible opportunity for you to get back into something that obviously pays well and may be more suited to your comfort zone.

I will bite.

It’s not a matter of not wanting to fly and or be an airline pilot. But unlike yourself whose only talent is trolling on Internet forums, most military pilots, especially those who have also flown rotary, have multiple talents and can use those to make a living. Since your promised five year flow has evaporated (not that it was ever going to be anyway), it’s better for all if those that can do something else for a while do so and prevent a few of your prized cadets from being furloughed and stuck in momma’s basement without a reason to leave their video games.


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