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Old 01-24-2021 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
I thought PSA had over 700 pilots on furlough? I’m still curious to why the sudden new hire announcement. YX going all in on LGA is another head scratcher. We shall have answers in time I guess.
New hire announcement is to encourage recalls.
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Old 01-24-2021 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
New hire announcement is to encourage recalls.
That or to prepare to take the AAG owned CR9’s from Mesa this summer. Hire now to have them ready in a few months.
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Old 01-24-2021 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
New hire announcement is to encourage recalls.
The recalls occurred before the new hire announcement. Recall letters were received December 23rd and the announcement of new hires wasn’t until mid January after the period you could accept or deny recall. That has nothing to do with it
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Old 01-24-2021 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
That or to prepare to take the AAG owned CR9’s from Mesa this summer. Hire now to have them ready in a few months.
^Unfortunately in this environment hiring for one probably means terrible news for another. What wouldn’t make sense is the last MESA earnings call made the American situation sound optimistic.
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Old 01-24-2021 | 08:24 AM
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If there's one thing I've been taught over and over and over by my experience at Envoy, it's that you should never read into staffing.

Remember when we had 180 FO's on reserve OFE for like 6 months and everyone was like "something huge is coming?"

Lol.
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Old 01-24-2021 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
That or to prepare to take the AAG owned CR9’s from Mesa this summer. Hire now to have them ready in a few months.
If, and I stress the IF, AAG takes the 900s from Mesa and sends them over to PSA its only for up to 10 this year. We parked 19 deuces if I remember correctly. Even if those 10 came to PSA we are still grossly overstaffed and wouldn't need to hire to cover them. I also don't believe many declined the recall. I'm pretty sure everyone over here is scratching their heads as to why and what's going on because it does not make sense at all.
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Old 01-24-2021 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDriver900
If, and I stress the IF, AAG takes the 900s from Mesa and sends them over to PSA its only for up to 10 this year. We parked 19 deuces if I remember correctly. Even if those 10 came to PSA we are still grossly overstaffed and wouldn't need to hire to cover them. I also don't believe many declined the recall. I'm pretty sure everyone over here is scratching their heads as to why and what's going on because it does not make sense at all.
I think management believes that a good number of the people who chose to not return until March may not return at all and are just collecting two paychecks.
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Old 01-24-2021 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RJDriver900
If, and I stress the IF, AAG takes the 900s from Mesa and sends them over to PSA its only for up to 10 this year. We parked 19 deuces if I remember correctly. Even if those 10 came to PSA we are still grossly overstaffed and wouldn't need to hire to cover them. I also don't believe many declined the recall. I'm pretty sure everyone over here is scratching their heads as to why and what's going on because it does not make sense at all.
I think the ones in charge expected recovery and vaccine rollout to have happened sooner.

With the new strains coming and international travel being hosed once again, some of these decisions seem dubious at best.

The longer I do this job the more I realize how speculative it is and how decisions take time to come to fruition. I feel like that is why we see a lot of strange positioning in hindsight.
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Old 01-25-2021 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
That or to prepare to take the AAG owned CR9’s from Mesa this summer. Hire now to have them ready in a few months.
There are no AA owned airplanes at Mesa.
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Old 01-25-2021 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by pangolin
There are no AA owned airplanes at Mesa.
This was brought up a while back. There WERE, at least, six or seven that AAG owns and had leased to Mesa.
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