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Old 01-20-2021 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GHawk
Not surprised at all. Republic has let several pilots go for this and the union can’t help them as the company views it as a “theft of time.” Not a good time to be rolling the dice with your job on the line.
This. Lying about it, as always, is the kiss of death. But many airlines and CP's consider being grossly out of position on reserve the same as lying... if you knew you were out of position, you should have called in and told them before you got called out.

For some reason there's always somebody who thinks they can game that, I've seen FO's fired for that at every airline I've worked for.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
Yeah that’s exactly what happens. They check the reserve board to see 5 guys ahead of them and figure why commute in on the first day of my 4 day reserve block? Suddenly receive a phone call for an assignment on the first day, immediately panic claim they’re sick or whatever.

At that point it doesn’t matter if your company iPad is off, they can track the location. Once they see your location is in another state outside of base, they start building a case. They’ll check when you flew in, if you flew into base.

The company see’s those actions as time stealing because it is. The individuals fired at OO recently playing reserve roulette had an opportunity to come clean and admit there mistakes and they lied again.
Please explain how the company, or anyone, can determine the location of a device that is turned off? Last place it WAS, sure, but not where it IS.

Yes, there are near field RFID that can monitor things that don’t have power, but that requires an RFID tag in/on the device and a powered sensor within a few feet.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
This. Lying about it, as always, is the kiss of death. But many airlines and CP's consider being grossly out of position on reserve the same as lying... if you knew you were out of position, you should have called in and told them before you got called out.

For some reason there's always somebody who thinks they can game that, I've seen FO's fired for that at every airline I've worked for.
I recently heard the individual fired from OO for time theft was a CA.

It’s like being pulled over for a DUI, most likely that wasn’t your first time driving a car drunk, you just got caught this time.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 09:34 AM
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"Last place it WAS, sure, but not where it IS"

has snowden taught you nothing? the government has had dvd's since the 70's man. the future is not distrubuted evenly
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Old 01-20-2021 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by acecrackshot
sketchy reasons (military leave issues and union activities, to name two with which I’m passingly familiar)
Well then you know that guy was on the organizing committee because he knew he was on a crash course with termination.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nonononononono
"Last place it WAS, sure, but not where it IS"

has snowden taught you nothing? the government has had dvd's since the 70's man. the future is not distrubuted evenly
I don’t rely on Snowden or anyone else. I have more than a bit of inside information on ACTIVELY tracking specific devices and I wouldn’t have if it was as easy as pinging a device that was turned off.

So I want to know what this person THINKS they know.

Not that I’m condoning not being where you are supposed to be, I just don’t believe anyone who says the company can tell where your Ipad is if it’s off.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN
I recently heard the individual fired from OO for time theft was a CA.

It’s like being pulled over for a DUI, most likely that wasn’t your first time driving a car drunk, you just got caught this time.
Well, I do love it when post modernist situational ethics demonstrate themselves.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I don’t rely on Snowden or anyone else. I have more than a bit of inside information on ACTIVELY tracking specific devices and I wouldn’t have if it was as easy as pinging a device that was turned off.

So I want to know what this person THINKS they know.

Not that I’m condoning not being where you are supposed to be, I just don’t believe anyone who says the company can tell where your Ipad is if it’s off.

ol’ blue falcon can get in that iPad.

Steal yo trips
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Old 01-20-2021 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by acecrackshot
Ping the IPad and then have all the cause you need.
Letter 16-03 number 3 has the guidance on this. The company cannot ping the iPad during the normal course of business. It would be a good fight to have.
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Old 01-20-2021 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchattitude
I don’t rely on Snowden or anyone else. I have more than a bit of inside information on ACTIVELY tracking specific devices and I wouldn’t have if it was as easy as pinging a device that was turned off.

So I want to know what this person THINKS they know.

Not that I’m condoning not being where you are supposed to be, I just don’t believe anyone who says the company can tell where your Ipad is if it’s off.
Wait I'm confused.
Are you saying that Chem trails really are mind control chemicals added to our fuel?
Obama really was born in Kenya?
Trump won by a landslide?
and a Miata really is a sports car?

Or are you saying all those things are false?
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