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Originally Posted by coodrough568
(Post 3204553)
Thought it had already been said by AA that early 2022 was the target
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Originally Posted by uavking
(Post 3204497)
DL is said to spool up pilot selection late Q4 '21/early Q1 '22. That's in order to compensate for early outs and projected Summer '22 flying. I would guess that AA will have to hire around the same time due to the sheer momentum of upcoming retirements.
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Originally Posted by AeroEnvoy
(Post 3204585)
Only problem is they still have to retrain all the furloughed pilots through long term. It could be a few years before they’re in a position to hire.
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Originally Posted by Santaslilhelper
(Post 3204803)
From what I understand it’s not a full long term. I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by Santaslilhelper
(Post 3204803)
From what I understand it’s not a full long term. I could be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
(Post 3204831)
I would venture to guess that all of them will be going through long term. Half didn’t finish training, a large portion was based in NYC, and they are recalled based on what is needed and they’ll have to re-bid for aircraft like new hires.
Some of the furloughs from AA would be from the E190 so they’ll obviously need long term on something else. Hopefully a lot of the furloughees from the 73 and ‘bus were already on the plane they wanted. I don’t honestly know how the recall works in their contract. Does anyone know if the pilots get to pick their new aircraft or if the company assigns it? Assuming they are offering both NB aircraft. |
Originally Posted by EagleVol
(Post 3204825)
It would only be a full long term if changing equipment, otherwise it’s about a 5 day training footprint.
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Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3204841)
The post this was answering was a question about AA furloughs, not ENY. You are probably correct about ENY.
Some of the furloughs from AA would be from the E190 so they’ll obviously need long term on something else. Hopefully a lot of the furloughees from the 73 and ‘bus were already on the plane they wanted. I don’t honestly know how the recall works in their contract. Does anyone know if the pilots get to pick their new aircraft or if the company assigns it? Assuming they are offering both NB aircraft. |
Originally Posted by Cyio
(Post 3204850)
This seems to be what I have heard as well. How long it will take to get through 1800 or so pilots is anyones guess, I was thinking 18 months, with 100 a month going in. Obviously COVID could speed up or delay that as could efficiency at AA's training department.
5 days is not much morethan a recurrent cycle. They already do at least 15000 of those a year. Adding 1800 shouldn’t be too hard. |
Originally Posted by But seriously
(Post 3204888)
If the majority of the events are really just 5 days, I’m sure they can do it faster than that if they want to. The “if they want to” is an important caveat.
5 days is not much morethan a recurrent cycle. They already do at least 15000 of those a year. Adding 1800 shouldn’t be too hard. Ultimately, like you said, it will come down to how quickly they feel the need to have them back. I don’t think they will need all 1800 back right away. |
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