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Cyio 03-13-2021 12:19 PM
Originally Posted by havick206 (Post 3206616)
Just read the AA mainline thread where they talk about LOA’s being approved like crack cocaine in the last bid. That’s pretty much sums up the realistic timeframe of AA hiring picking back up.
The “flow” won’t be back for some time. If I had to guess, two years.

ERAUAV8TR 03-22-2021 06:52 PM
Originally Posted by Cyio (Post 3206637)
The “flow” won’t be back for some time. If I had to guess, two years.
why?
........

Shiner 03-22-2021 08:39 PM
Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3210444)
I’d keep your heads up. We are roughly 7-800k travelers per day away from 2019 levels with virtually NO business travel at all.

I think the biggest issue is training backlog at AA. They displaced a huge number of pilots by parking the 190, 75/76, and 330. They also had quite a few out on furlough. I don’t think they’ll be able to train new hires for quite a while.


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Da Magic 03-23-2021 04:31 AM
Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3210454)
I think the biggest issue is training backlog at AA. They displaced a huge number of pilots by parking the 190, 75/76, and 330. They also had quite a few out on furlough. I don’t think they’ll be able to train new hires for quite a while.


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Most of the guys displaced have already been retrained.

LabDad06 03-23-2021 08:30 AM
Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3210454)
I think the biggest issue is training backlog at AA.
How many are needing training still? How many can they get through in a month? How long will it take to get everyone trained and current?

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3210454)
They displaced a huge number of pilots by parking the 190, 75/76, and 330.
How many?

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3210454)
They also had quite a few out on furlough.
How many?

Originally Posted by Shiner (Post 3210454)
I don’t think they’ll be able to train new hires for quite a while.
How long? Is quite a while a year? Two years? Three?

rld1k 03-23-2021 08:37 AM
Why would APA agree to a no furlough thru 2022 for scope concessions then?

rld1k 03-23-2021 10:27 AM
Originally Posted by coodrough568 (Post 3210593)
its not a once concessions. It an agreement not to grieve 2020-2021, where AA broke the scope because they parked so many narrow bodies. It’s a slippery slope.

potato tomato. it's a concession


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