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pitchattitude 02-07-2022 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 3367603)
I love how you anonymous keyboard warriors here know the exact numbers AA is hiring outside the flow. Far more than a handful of Envoy pilots have been hired outside the flow in the past 6 months. When you factor in the flow, Envoy is far and away your best choice to get to American in the fastest manner possible. There are so many disgruntled guys here for whatever reason that like to throw grenades in here and attempt to poison the well. I can tell you that it's not working. Recruiting is working hard yes, however they are having phenomenal success at present and the number of new pilots out there that only want AA far exceeds those seeking other pastures. Stop listening to the rhetoric here and come to Envoy if AA is where you truly want to be.

Gotta disagree with you. Look at the PERCENTAGES. There is by far a MUCH smaller percentage being hired DIRECTLY from the WOs. (Even if you include flow) If you want to get to AA anytime soon, unless you are already within about 6 months of flowing, statically you are better off to leave and then apply while not working for a WO.

Time will tell what happens in the long term, but the flow was all about keeping folks at the WOs and still is. It’s just not working for pilots trying to get to mainline and because of that, it’s not keeping those pilots at the WOs either.

If you want to work for a specific WO, do it because it works for YOU. Don’t do it because you think it will get you to AA.

buddies8 02-07-2022 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by cr700 (Post 3367603)
I love how you anonymous keyboard warriors here know the exact numbers AA is hiring outside the flow. Far more than a handful of Envoy pilots have been hired outside the flow in the past 6 months. When you factor in the flow, Envoy is far and away your best choice to get to American in the fastest manner possible. There are so many disgruntled guys here for whatever reason that like to throw grenades in here and attempt to poison the well. I can tell you that it's not working. Recruiting is working hard yes, however they are having phenomenal success at present and the number of new pilots out there that only want AA far exceeds those seeking other pastures. Stop listening to the rhetoric here and come to Envoy if AA is where you truly want to be.

Its back........

Chato 02-07-2022 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 3367890)
Its back........

they blocked him on his other username so he’s back on the old one

BigZ 02-07-2022 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Chato (Post 3367940)
they blocked him on his other username so he’s back on the old one

the bets are still out if cr700 and dacuj is the same dude or not, leaning towards not.

pitchattitude 02-07-2022 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by BigZ (Post 3368073)
the bets are still out if cr700 and dacuj is the same dude or not, leaning towards not.

Yeah, I’m still betting not as well. Hard to believe there is more than one Envoy KoolAid swiller, but pretty sure this management shill isn’t the same one as he who shall remain unnamed.

at6d 02-15-2022 11:52 PM

I honestly never met an Eagle/Envoy koolaid peddler. Not since 2000 at least.

Im willing to bet most AA hires didn’t flow. Ever.

For a long while, I met more that got to Eagle via the reverse flow than ever went over.

NoValueAviator 02-16-2022 06:21 AM

AA considers the flow a joke in the sense that if you wait for it, they're laughing at you.

I heard they handed out a bunch of no-interview on the spot CJOs at NGPA. Anyone got the details? Did they exclude our guys again?

pitchattitude 02-16-2022 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3373420)
AA considers the flow a joke in the sense that if you wait for it, they're laughing at you.

I heard they handed out a bunch of no-interview on the spot CJOs at NGPA. Anyone got the details? Did they exclude our guys again?

I saw that and wondered exactly that as well.

FurloughFodder 02-16-2022 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3373420)
AA considers the flow a joke in the sense that if you wait for it, they're laughing at you.

I heard they handed out a bunch of no-interview on the spot CJOs at NGPA. Anyone got the details? Did they exclude our guys again?


They called people for on site interviews and had them complete the online portion afterwards. I know of at least two ENY guys who got CJOs.

NoValueAviator 02-16-2022 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by FurloughFodder (Post 3373477)
They called people for on site interviews and had them complete the online portion afterwards. I know of at least two ENY guys who got CJOs.

:eek:

I don’t want to be crass but were they actually GPs or just ambitious people in attendance for networking reasons?


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