Pilot Recruiting
06-14-2022 | 04:20 PM
#261
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I'll try to give it a shot, others' mileage might vary
Questions from a pilot looking to jump ship from their current regional. The first 6 are gripes about my company and wondering what it’s like at Envoy. The rest deal with these new pay rates and bonuses:
1. Duty days always getting extended into min rest
Not always. Last day of reserve block - 50/50 chance
2. On hold with crew scheduling 2-3+ hours constantly even when not in IROPS
Nah, 5-10 mins normal ops, IROPS - depends how bad. I had 15-45 hold times
3. Early starts/late finishes no commuter friendly trips
50/50
4. Won’t honor day off requests
Depends on what exactly you're asking, need more details
5. Overall morale of pilot group is fairly toxic
Complaining is always going to be there. Toxic - I wouldn't go that far.
6. Mgmt dragging its feet in negotiations, seemingly not interested in retaining pilots. Obviously AA Mgmt came to the table but what about Envoy’s Mgmt?
That's a long conversation.
7. The way the bonus table reads since I don’t have 750 hours I might not be eligible for any of the bonuses. Is that correct?
I think there's some newhire bonus, but someone who knows better will hopefully chime in.
8. I don’t have anywhere near 750 hours yet but I am type rated in the E175 so would I be eligible for the $7,500 type rating bonus?
no idea on the new hire bonuses
9. Would I be guaranteed the E175 since I am already type rated in that aircraft?
Nope
10. How is the training footprint different for a pilot who’s already type rated in that aircraft?
It isn't
11. I read that Captain pay is applied at 750 hours but what if I chose not to upgrade or is upgrade forced upon reaching 1,000 121 hours?
It isn't forced yet. Has been in the past
12. Could I be allowed to bypass the bonuses all together?
The collective 150k - yes. Rest don't know
13. I read that training is in Irving, TX. Are your sims there too?
Mostly yes
14. I read you now have 12 hour long call reserve. That must only be a percentage of reserves on any given day right? Do you require “airport standby” reserve?
We don't have it in place yet
There is standby
15. What exactly does “up to four” hotel rooms for commuters mean? How does commuter hotel rooms work?
Pretty much like that - if you need commuter hotel, the company will provide up to 4 a month
16. Regarding non-rev travel: how many “friends” are eligible? The wording does use the plural form of friend(s).
one registered companion + buddy passes
17. How much is the “training salary”? Are we talking about 70-75 hour credit at appropriate years of service or some much lower arbitrary number?
cant remember, wasnt bad.
18. When are you expecting to convert to the PBS system since the website says “coming soon”?
TBD
19. If given a CJO would I have advance access to any training materials like a study guide especially containing flows and callouts prior to training?
I don't believe so, you get access at your day 1 of indoc
I very much look forward to your responses. Thank you in advance for your time and effort in answering my questions.
1. Duty days always getting extended into min rest
Not always. Last day of reserve block - 50/50 chance
2. On hold with crew scheduling 2-3+ hours constantly even when not in IROPS
Nah, 5-10 mins normal ops, IROPS - depends how bad. I had 15-45 hold times
3. Early starts/late finishes no commuter friendly trips
50/50
4. Won’t honor day off requests
Depends on what exactly you're asking, need more details
5. Overall morale of pilot group is fairly toxic
Complaining is always going to be there. Toxic - I wouldn't go that far.
6. Mgmt dragging its feet in negotiations, seemingly not interested in retaining pilots. Obviously AA Mgmt came to the table but what about Envoy’s Mgmt?
That's a long conversation.
7. The way the bonus table reads since I don’t have 750 hours I might not be eligible for any of the bonuses. Is that correct?
I think there's some newhire bonus, but someone who knows better will hopefully chime in.
8. I don’t have anywhere near 750 hours yet but I am type rated in the E175 so would I be eligible for the $7,500 type rating bonus?
no idea on the new hire bonuses
9. Would I be guaranteed the E175 since I am already type rated in that aircraft?
Nope
10. How is the training footprint different for a pilot who’s already type rated in that aircraft?
It isn't
11. I read that Captain pay is applied at 750 hours but what if I chose not to upgrade or is upgrade forced upon reaching 1,000 121 hours?
It isn't forced yet. Has been in the past
12. Could I be allowed to bypass the bonuses all together?
The collective 150k - yes. Rest don't know
13. I read that training is in Irving, TX. Are your sims there too?
Mostly yes
14. I read you now have 12 hour long call reserve. That must only be a percentage of reserves on any given day right? Do you require “airport standby” reserve?
We don't have it in place yet
There is standby
15. What exactly does “up to four” hotel rooms for commuters mean? How does commuter hotel rooms work?
Pretty much like that - if you need commuter hotel, the company will provide up to 4 a month
16. Regarding non-rev travel: how many “friends” are eligible? The wording does use the plural form of friend(s).
one registered companion + buddy passes
17. How much is the “training salary”? Are we talking about 70-75 hour credit at appropriate years of service or some much lower arbitrary number?
cant remember, wasnt bad.
18. When are you expecting to convert to the PBS system since the website says “coming soon”?
TBD
19. If given a CJO would I have advance access to any training materials like a study guide especially containing flows and callouts prior to training?
I don't believe so, you get access at your day 1 of indoc
I very much look forward to your responses. Thank you in advance for your time and effort in answering my questions.
06-14-2022 | 04:37 PM
#262
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The Envoy pilot page states you must have 750 hours and E175 type rating to get the $7,500.
It will be interesting to see if Envoy hires from other regionals who provide AA regional lift since they're doing it for half the cost right now.
https://www.envoyair.com/wp-content/...t_May_2022.jpg
It will be interesting to see if Envoy hires from other regionals who provide AA regional lift since they're doing it for half the cost right now.
https://www.envoyair.com/wp-content/...t_May_2022.jpg
06-14-2022 | 04:50 PM
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06-14-2022 | 05:12 PM
#265
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To answer two of them:
16. Regarding non-rev travel: how many “friends” are eligible? The wording does use the plural form of friend(s).
16 "buddy passes"
17. How much is the “training salary”? Are we talking about 70-75 hour credit at appropriate years of service or some much lower arbitrary number?
64 hours at year 1 FO pay plus per diem
16. Regarding non-rev travel: how many “friends” are eligible? The wording does use the plural form of friend(s).
16 "buddy passes"
17. How much is the “training salary”? Are we talking about 70-75 hour credit at appropriate years of service or some much lower arbitrary number?
64 hours at year 1 FO pay plus per diem
06-14-2022 | 05:46 PM
#267
On Reserve
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06-14-2022 | 06:03 PM
#268
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: E-175 FO
06-14-2022 | 06:10 PM
#269
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
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From: Whale FO
Pre-COVID there used to be a joke that D3's (these buddy passes) are for people you don't like. If used cautiously, they can be useful at times. The fees are expensive though, 60-80 per domestic leg and 100-150 intl.
The sweet spot is long haul stuff where you can find a flight with seats in business class. But if someone wants to go to Cabo for Spring Break, that is not going to happen.
06-14-2022 | 06:14 PM
#270
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i usually give these to people i dont really like or my mother in law. They have a set cost. It’s not worth the hassle honestly.
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