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Old 01-23-2023 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SFORedwood
Oh, I understand that. My point is that this is a major decision in most people's lives. If there is a union bid out for X number of positions, just share the information. The company must have some idea of the numbers of pilot vacancies and where they envision they will fall. That should be shared.

In a perfect world the job offer should state what base you are initially being assigned. I shouldn't have to quit a current job only to find this out on day one of orientation.
In a perfect world, it would. But airlines are far from a perfect world. What major airline tells you where you will be based before you accept a CJO or even show up to class? Even if the class drop is known, you have no idea where you fall in class seniority nor what those above you will choose.

In the case of regionals especially, they don’t even file their own flight plan so to speak. Where they fly is decided by main line and they react accordingly.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 05:32 PM
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I wonder if any AA pilots on the narrow body have gone back to Envoy to come in at a higher pay rate & collect $100K. Say 1st. or 2nd. year at AA @ $90 or $137 per hour & go to $146 to $213 per hour plus the $100K.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by SFORedwood
I wonder if any AA pilots on the narrow body have gone back to Envoy to come in at a higher pay rate & collect $100K. Say 1st. or 2nd. year at AA @ $90 or $137 per hour & go to $146 to $213 per hour plus the $100K.
I'd love to meet the idiot that would ever do that.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Slow2Final
I'd love to meet the idiot that would ever do that.
There actually is a narrow age band this makes some sense if you don't mind perpetual junior status. Flow to AA take the flow bonus. Return to WO take the DEC bonus. Then retire.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 06:48 PM
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There actually is a narrow age band this makes some sense if you don't mind perpetual junior status. Flow to AA take the flow bonus. Return to WO take the DEC bonus. Then retire.
God bless them. That close to retirement and willing to deal with regional CA reserve for your remainder of time? Crazy.
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Old 01-25-2023 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Slow2Final
God bless them. That close to retirement and willing to deal with regional CA reserve for your remainder of time? Crazy.
Not saying I would do it or recommend it.
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Old 01-25-2023 | 01:20 PM
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What’s the crash pad situation in DFW? Decent variety?

Also, are you offered health care on day 1?

thanks
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Old 01-27-2023 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SFORedwood
I wonder if any AA pilots on the narrow body have gone back to Envoy to come in at a higher pay rate & collect $100K. Say 1st. or 2nd. year at AA @ $90 or $137 per hour & go to $146 to $213 per hour plus the $100K.

Nah, envoy its still a regional.
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Old 02-26-2023 | 05:19 PM
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I can’t start a new thread yet.

So the question is about having a felony record and applying for Envoy. The charges were financial and isolated to his own business. He has 4000TT of which 820hrs are in the Saab 340 and ATR 42/72-600 combined which were at a 121 operation. He has his 1st class medical and is instrument current. His background is very diverse from Navy, 10 yrs Law Enforcement, owning his own business to flying for a part 121 operation for 18 months. He’s turn key. Upgradable in months.
“Bad things happen to good people”
Should he apply? Maybe if a recruiter sees this thread they can share some insight.
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Old 02-27-2023 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Simeoner
I can’t start a new thread yet.

So the question is about having a felony record and applying for Envoy. The charges were financial and isolated to his own business. He has 4000TT of which 820hrs are in the Saab 340 and ATR 42/72-600 combined which were at a 121 operation. He has his 1st class medical and is instrument current. His background is very diverse from Navy, 10 yrs Law Enforcement, owning his own business to flying for a part 121 operation for 18 months. He’s turn key. Upgradable in months.
“Bad things happen to good people”
Should he apply? Maybe if a recruiter sees this thread they can share some insight.

See my response to your other post.

1. Financial crime (ie theft) is going to be tough because they'll assume dishonest intent. You will need professional airline interview prep to learn how to address that correctly. They'd be more understanding of a DUI or even a bar fight.

2. Again, you have to take the attitude of taking responsibility, not "poop happens". It's possible your accountant screwed up, you didn't understand tax laws, etc, etc, etc and did not actually mean to commit a crime but you need to take responsibility regardless. If nothing else, for inadequate oversight, management or research.

Normally your chances would be slim, but with the pilot shortage regionals are desperate for CA eligible pilots so you have that going for you. I'd say a regional will *want* to hire but they will also need to see how you address the situation. It would help if there's no prison history, ex-con flying an airliner is a PR nightmare for an airline.

I think you have a decent shot at a regional, but if you hope to move on to a major that will be harder... but LCC's are getting desperate too so if you get a couple years of good performance under your belt at a regional that would be possible IMO.

Don not submit any airline applications until after you get professional interview help... you have to address this in a specific manner and you can never take back anything you submit on an app.
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