Originally Posted by Ravenwing

I suspect that $100,000 bonus will require a three year commitment or full repayment. How many pilots will be willing to commit to a regional for that long in this hiring environment? I bet they will entice more early retirees out of retirement, but most regional pilots would be better off aiming for their final career goals.

Republic is offering “up to $100,000” in bonuses for DECs. Commutair is offering a $75,000 DEC bonus and Endeavor is offering a $40,000 DEC bonus. SkyWest is focused on their mandatory upgrades.

Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO

It is a 24 month requirement and would last them till rates drop back down. Cadets & New-Hire 1500 CFI type folks will get ZERO Bonuses unless they start a class date before Jan 1.

Those 187k bonuses they advertised prior are being replaced with this program and only high time FO’s & DEC are eligible. Which leads me to believe that Envoy/PSA/PDT have ZERO interest in a brand new-hire FO anymore. Problem is when rates snap back all those 1500 CFI’s that are coming up the ranks are going to know to avoid all AA WO. AA WO are shooting themselves by alienating those new hires. Meanwhile Spirit, Frontier, Breeze and others are snatching them up.

Originally Posted by AerChungus

Anybody hear anything about projections for when they will start bringing on non-121 FOs again? I got an email that said they were "hiring 121 experience captain pilots until the first quarter of 2023". The first quarter 2023 is in a few days, just wondering if anybody had heard anyting

Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO

The first quarter of 2023 ends March 31, 2023. I would interpret that statement to mean they are not hiring till after that. That would coincide with the promotion of 100k sign on bonus paid one day prior to class for new hire 121 pilots that start class by March 31, 2023

Originally Posted by Ravenwing

This thread is proving that Envoy is still attracting more DECs than any other airline, and more are on the fence thinking about jumping in. Envoy has a good training department, good aircraft, good work rules, longevity matching, and good pay, especially for those planning to stay and cash in on the bonuses. Many seem to be coming from outside of 121, either due to retirement, part 135 or 91 gigs, career changes, or military, and some are still coming from less desirable regionals.

I think Envoy has a good strategy, training as many pilots as captains as possible. They won’t waste money upgrading pilots after less than a year, and if they get desperate, they can force upgrade the FO bidding DECs early. It appears that Envoy is hurting less for captains than other regionals because they were among the first to raise pay and prioritize those with 121 time or an equivalent. It might hurt them later, but they are focused on the current crisis.

For those who keep asking will they be able to get a base, vacancy bids are usually run at the end of every quarter. I would guess that movement within each base will depend on attrition, upgrades, displacements from the E145, and potential transfers to PHX when that base opens. The 10/31 Indoc class had 3 ORD E175 FOs and the rest got DFW E175 CA or FO according to the class drop thread. The next few classes will probably be similar until a new vacancy is run. Recruiters are likely to tell you what you want to hear, but they can’t predict accurately without knowing whether a recession is finally going to slow down the business or how many pilots will still leave for greener pastures or how many FOs will finally reach 1,000 hours and get upgraded. We live in unprecedented times.

Originally Posted by DoctorDutch

I'm at 58 years with 1800 TT 500 turbine. C510 rating. Any chance I would qualify at Envoy?

Originally Posted by Puck Hawg

Are they hiring DEC’s? Is it safe to assume one would be on reserve for a long time? Is DFW junior?

Thanks