Originally Posted by SGS233

It's nice to see folks sharing info, so I thought I'd add the following as a supplement to everything else that's been well stated above.

RE: the overall DEC hiring process:
1st visit: Logbook, Urinalysis, Fingerprints... half-day, it starts early, they will fly you in the night before and provide a hotel
2nd visit: "Orientation"... half-day (same as above) and you'll end the day with a seniority number, a class start date, being on payroll
3rd visit: Day 1 of Class (this is when you will bid for base and seat assignments)

How seniority numbers were assigned:
Cadets first, then those with previous Part 121 hours
The individual with the most number of 121 hours was at the top of the list, with the person having the next highest number of 121 hours immediately below them
IIRC, those with "qualifying" 121.436 time (eg, 135, 91K, 500 hours of military) were racked and stacked after all the regular 121 folks

Class Date assignments:
Cadets were assigned to the very next class
After that, those with the highest seniority (ie, highest number of Part 121 hours) started soonest, everyone else gets slotted into subsequent class dates based on seniority (highest-to-lowest)

Pay:
For the time between "Orientation" and Day-1 of Class: $90/hr x 64 hours
Starting on Day-1 of Class:
Those that bid FO will be paid at their "longevity rate" x 64 hours mo while in training
Those that bid CA will be paid at their "longevity rate" x 72 hours a mo while in training

Have the following available during the "Orientation" visit:
Passport (for employment verification)
Notebook/iPad/Tablet/smartphone (whichever works for you, but you will be setting up your company www access (in real-time) as part of this visit)

OBTW:
As someone stated above, if you have 950+ Part 121 hours, REGARDLESS if you bid CA or FO, you will:
Train as a CA
Do your type ride as a CA
Be observed by a Fed as a CA

NB:
During training, those that bid FO will only be paid 64 hours/mo (even though they are training as a CA) vs the 72 hours/mo that will be paid to those that bid for the left-seat
Those that bid FO will fly in the right-seat until they decide to move seats (assuming there is a vacancy) and will not return to the schoolhouse for any additional training

Logistics:
Visit 1: the hotel shuttle is on-demand... so call the front desk when you're ready to be picked-up
Visit 2: ditto the above (and it generally runs every 30 minutes)
You can bring all of your travel kit to the "Orientation" briefing room as there will be ample space to store it in the room itself

General vibe:
The Director of Training very refreshingly stated (my paraphrasing): "We're a service department, we're here to help you succeed."
For me, personally, it was a much-appreciated, and much different, mindset from my previous (successful, but not well organized) 121 training experience
A 180+ page ERJ 175 study guide was electronically distributed to all of the "Orientation" attendees the same day that we were there

Hope this helps.

Originally Posted by Puck Hawg

Is there long call or an aggressive pickup window?

Are DEC’s paid captain pay during training?

Also, if you leave and don’t meet the obligations of the 24 months at Envoy, do they hold your records hostage from PRIA? Do they setup a period to repay the money?

Thanks

Originally Posted by Sadlerg5

I did the three day jet refresher course prior to my recent class date. I found it helpful, they put you in a 145 sim more than likely, because that is what they have available. I haven’t touched an airplane in 13 years since working for my previous airline, so the refresher course is for people like me getting me back into the swing of things. Also, it’s for the company to evaluate you, to see that you’re at least a little bit trainable. Not sure what they would do if you completely bomb it. But they pretty much walk you through it, and you are not expected to know any specific procedures. Just basic stick and rudder skills so to speak.

Originally Posted by Sadlerg5

I did the three day jet refresher course prior to my recent class date. I found it helpful, they put you in a 145 sim more than likely, because that is what they have available. I haven’t touched an airplane in 13 years since working for my previous airline, so the refresher course is for people like me getting me back into the swing of things. Also, it’s for the company to evaluate you, to see that you’re at least a little bit trainable. Not sure what they would do if you completely bomb it. But they pretty much walk you through it, and you are not expected to know any specific procedures. Just basic stick and rudder skills so to speak.

Originally Posted by TheRegalEagle

Hey guys,

Forgive me if I’m repeating a previous post…I went back like 6 pages. I’m coming back to Envoy after being away from flying for 8 years. I left for family reasons, but the timing seems to be favoring me coming back now. I just dropped my app a few days ago, but does anyone have any idea how long it takes to hear anything back? I was a junior captain when I left, but reading the posts here sounds like I have a chance to get back to the left seat. Will lack of instrument currency restrict my chances or will they just catch me up in the sim? Plus, it sounds like I may be able to get the 1:1 seniority pay, but not sure about the $100K bonus if classes are already filling up to March. Any help would be appreciated. I will be applying elsewhere, as well, but not sure if I can pass up the seniority pay.

Originally Posted by TheRegalEagle

Hey guys,

Forgive me if I’m repeating a previous post…I went back like 6 pages. I’m coming back to Envoy after being away from flying for 8 years. I left for family reasons, but the timing seems to be favoring me coming back now. I just dropped my app a few days ago, but does anyone have any idea how long it takes to hear anything back? I was a junior captain when I left, but reading the posts here sounds like I have a chance to get back to the left seat. Will lack of instrument currency restrict my chances or will they just catch me up in the sim? Plus, it sounds like I may be able to get the 1:1 seniority pay, but not sure about the $100K bonus if classes are already filling up to March. Any help would be appreciated. I will be applying elsewhere, as well, but not sure if I can pass up the seniority pay.

Originally Posted by Satoshikitty

When I applied back in November, I received an email with a CJO within 24hrs. To give you a little bit of context:

I haven't flown for 13 years, I have roughly 5000 hrs of part 121 (half as F/O, half as CA). Before I could be scheduled for an orientation class, I had to schedule a 3-day Jet refresher course, provided by Envoy.

When I went for my logbook review in December, there was a mix of applicants, some current, some not. But most qualified for CA. So I would think that you have a good chance, as a former Envoy CA. Lack of currency didn't seem to be an issue, as far as I could tell. In fact, if you read back through this thread, you will find quite a few applicants who haven't flown for several years, like myself.

Also, I'm pretty sure the bonus has been extended for another month.

I hope this helps ;-)