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Originally Posted by Simeoner
(Post 3598480)
I can’t start a new thread yet.
So the question is about having a felony record and applying for Envoy. The charges were financial and isolated to his own business. He has 4000TT of which 820hrs are in the Saab 340 and ATR 42/72-600 combined which were at a 121 operation. He has his 1st class medical and is instrument current. His background is very diverse from Navy, 10 yrs Law Enforcement, owning his own business to flying for a part 121 operation for 18 months. He’s turn key. Upgradable in months. “Bad things happen to good people” Should he apply? Maybe if a recruiter sees this thread they can share some insight. See my response to your other post. 1. Financial crime (ie theft) is going to be tough because they'll assume dishonest intent. You will need professional airline interview prep to learn how to address that correctly. They'd be more understanding of a DUI or even a bar fight. 2. Again, you have to take the attitude of taking responsibility, not "poop happens". It's possible your accountant screwed up, you didn't understand tax laws, etc, etc, etc and did not actually mean to commit a crime but you need to take responsibility regardless. If nothing else, for inadequate oversight, management or research. Normally your chances would be slim, but with the pilot shortage regionals are desperate for CA eligible pilots so you have that going for you. I'd say a regional will *want* to hire but they will also need to see how you address the situation. It would help if there's no prison history, ex-con flying an airliner is a PR nightmare for an airline. I think you have a decent shot at a regional, but if you hope to move on to a major that will be harder... but LCC's are getting desperate too so if you get a couple years of good performance under your belt at a regional that would be possible IMO. Don not submit any airline applications until after you get professional interview help... you have to address this in a specific manner and you can never take back anything you submit on an app. |
Rickair777 I don’t disagree with you. It’s all about being honest. I have no desire to go to a legacy. I can articulate my situation during the interview and will just have to sell the fact I’ve taken the responsibility. There will be no poop attitude as you call it when I start applying.
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Originally Posted by Simeoner
(Post 3598714)
Rickair777 I don’t disagree with you. It’s all about being honest. I have no desire to go to a legacy. I can articulate my situation during the interview and will just have to sell the fact I’ve taken the responsibility. There will be no poop attitude as you call it when I start applying.
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How far out date class?
Hello!!! I have an interview with Envoy next week. Do you guys know how far are are they giving class dates?
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How far are the class dates right now?
Hello!!!
I was wondering how far are the start class dates right now. I have an interview with Envoy next week. thank you. |
Originally Posted by Davidcabrera
(Post 3611337)
Hello!!!
I was wondering how far are the start class dates right now. I have an interview with Envoy next week. thank you. It should take 10-14 days after your interview to clear the Captain Review Board and initial background check. Most of the DECs have been getting an Orientation date, the day you go on pay roll, around 3-6 weeks later. So maybe 7 weeks or so after the interview. Your Indoc date could be 2-6 weeks after Orientation depending on your class seniority but you will be paid and given a study packet and a few onboarding tasks to do at home. |
Last I heard Envoy was filling the April 13th Orientation date. They have a new hire pilot orientation once a month and Indoc class every two weeks; Indoc is assigned after Orientation.
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I got a call from a recruiter two weeks ago stating they are now back to hiring FOs, but still no word on a class date. I applied in oct and got a CJO in November. Does anyone who is non 121 FO have any luck securing a class date recently ?
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I am prior Part 121 and had Orientation March 9th. My observation is that the training department has been scheduling somewhat last minute; I received email confirmation of an orientation date I had heard by phone exactly two weeks prior to that date along with a request for more paperwork. I received travel plans the day before I departed. Prior groups got Indoc dates at Orientation, we were told what dates to expect and I received confirmation of mine a week later. Envoy isn’t scheduling months out like everyone else.
The next Orientation date is April 13th. If you are on their firm list for this date you can expect to hear more by email on March 30th. I have heard of some cadets receiving less than two weeks notice, so it is possible Envoy will offer this date to more pilots closer in as they finalize numbers and plans. They are probably still prioritizing prior Part 121 pilots and hoping to fit in others too, maybe they discovered their hiring pool mostly went elsewhere and are now replacing them. If you are in their hiring pool and can accept less than two weeks notice, I would email your recruiters and remind them after March 30th. I would guess the May Orientation date will be May 11th or 18th since it is always on a Thursday. As a pilot you are always going to be a number to your employer, they may expect loyalty but they won’t give you loyalty in return and they don’t care about what is fair. Until you are actually in Orientation you don’t have a firm spot on Envoy’s training list or pilot seniority list. The good thing is that with Envoy’s orientation system they start paying you up to six weeks before you actually start ground school. |
Originally Posted by Davidcabrera
(Post 3611337)
Hello!!!
I was wondering how far are the start class dates right now. I have an interview with Envoy next week. thank you. |
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