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pitchattitude 01-23-2023 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sasquatched (Post 3577334)
After the last vacancy bid there was 74 unfilled CA vacancies between ORD and DFW. The company announced a standing vacancy now for both ORD and DFW.

Both DFW and ORD should be offered to DECs in the coming classes until the next vacancy comes out in a few months.

Just because you are awarded ORD in class next month doesn’t mean you won’t get displaced to PHX in May and then DFW in October. I never would have thought DFW would be a junior base, but it’s so large now, it is.

Pretty certain NO ONE will be displaced to PHX. While they haven’t said how big it will be, don’t expect it to be very big and there are still a LOT of pilots that live in PHX alone, not including all the SoCal people. It will go senior.

pitchattitude 01-23-2023 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by SFORedwood (Post 3577192)
Oh, I understand that. My point is that this is a major decision in most people's lives. If there is a union bid out for X number of positions, just share the information. The company must have some idea of the numbers of pilot vacancies and where they envision they will fall. That should be shared.

In a perfect world the job offer should state what base you are initially being assigned. I shouldn't have to quit a current job only to find this out on day one of orientation.

In a perfect world, it would. But airlines are far from a perfect world. What major airline tells you where you will be based before you accept a CJO or even show up to class? Even if the class drop is known, you have no idea where you fall in class seniority nor what those above you will choose.

In the case of regionals especially, they don’t even file their own flight plan so to speak. Where they fly is decided by main line and they react accordingly.

SFORedwood 01-24-2023 05:32 PM

I wonder if any AA pilots on the narrow body have gone back to Envoy to come in at a higher pay rate & collect $100K. Say 1st. or 2nd. year at AA @ $90 or $137 per hour & go to $146 to $213 per hour plus the $100K.

Slow2Final 01-24-2023 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by SFORedwood (Post 3578681)
I wonder if any AA pilots on the narrow body have gone back to Envoy to come in at a higher pay rate & collect $100K. Say 1st. or 2nd. year at AA @ $90 or $137 per hour & go to $146 to $213 per hour plus the $100K.

I'd love to meet the idiot that would ever do that.

highfarfast 01-24-2023 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Slow2Final (Post 3578721)
I'd love to meet the idiot that would ever do that.

There actually is a narrow age band this makes some sense if you don't mind perpetual junior status. Flow to AA take the flow bonus. Return to WO take the DEC bonus. Then retire.

Slow2Final 01-24-2023 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3578726)
There actually is a narrow age band this makes some sense if you don't mind perpetual junior status. Flow to AA take the flow bonus. Return to WO take the DEC bonus. Then retire.

God bless them. That close to retirement and willing to deal with regional CA reserve for your remainder of time? Crazy.

highfarfast 01-25-2023 05:59 AM


Originally Posted by Slow2Final (Post 3578728)
God bless them. That close to retirement and willing to deal with regional CA reserve for your remainder of time? Crazy.

Not saying I would do it or recommend it.

Puck Hawg 01-25-2023 01:20 PM

What’s the crash pad situation in DFW? Decent variety?

Also, are you offered health care on day 1?

thanks

AB321Driver 01-27-2023 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by SFORedwood (Post 3578681)
I wonder if any AA pilots on the narrow body have gone back to Envoy to come in at a higher pay rate & collect $100K. Say 1st. or 2nd. year at AA @ $90 or $137 per hour & go to $146 to $213 per hour plus the $100K.


Nah, envoy its still a regional.

Simeoner 02-26-2023 05:19 PM

Bad things happen to good people
 
I can’t start a new thread yet.

So the question is about having a felony record and applying for Envoy. The charges were financial and isolated to his own business. He has 4000TT of which 820hrs are in the Saab 340 and ATR 42/72-600 combined which were at a 121 operation. He has his 1st class medical and is instrument current. His background is very diverse from Navy, 10 yrs Law Enforcement, owning his own business to flying for a part 121 operation for 18 months. He’s turn key. Upgradable in months.
“Bad things happen to good people”
Should he apply? Maybe if a recruiter sees this thread they can share some insight.


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