Rickair777 I don’t disagree with you. It’s all about being honest. I have no desire to go to a legacy. I can articulate my situation during the interview and will just have to sell the fact I’ve taken the responsibility. There will be no poop attitude as you call it when I start applying.

 

With all that past work/life experience and whatever you did, for better or worse, do you really want to go back to the bottom of a regional airline's seniority list commuting to reserve with 12 days off? Seems like after living so much of what seems like a somewhat interesting life, I'd want to do something more relaxing.

 

Hello!!! I have an interview with Envoy next week. Do you guys know how far are are they giving class dates?
Thank you in advance.

 

Hello!!!

I was wondering how far are the start class dates right now. I have an interview with Envoy next week.
thank you.

 

Envoy hasn’t really been interviewing lately except for cadets. They have been hiring lots of DEC candidates and high Part 121 time candidates without interviewing them. If they are interviewing again, that means their DEC pool is running dry.

It should take 10-14 days after your interview to clear the Captain Review Board and initial background check. Most of the DECs have been getting an Orientation date, the day you go on pay roll, around 3-6 weeks later. So maybe 7 weeks or so after the interview. Your Indoc date could be 2-6 weeks after Orientation depending on your class seniority but you will be paid and given a study packet and a few onboarding tasks to do at home.

 

Last I heard Envoy was filling the April 13th Orientation date. They have a new hire pilot orientation once a month and Indoc class every two weeks; Indoc is assigned after Orientation.

 

I got a call from a recruiter two weeks ago stating they are now back to hiring FOs, but still no word on a class date. I applied in oct and got a CJO in November. Does anyone who is non 121 FO have any luck securing a class date recently ?

 

I am prior Part 121 and had Orientation March 9th. My observation is that the training department has been scheduling somewhat last minute; I received email confirmation of an orientation date I had heard by phone exactly two weeks prior to that date along with a request for more paperwork. I received travel plans the day before I departed. Prior groups got Indoc dates at Orientation, we were told what dates to expect and I received confirmation of mine a week later. Envoy isn’t scheduling months out like everyone else.

The next Orientation date is April 13th. If you are on their firm list for this date you can expect to hear more by email on March 30th. I have heard of some cadets receiving less than two weeks notice, so it is possible Envoy will offer this date to more pilots closer in as they finalize numbers and plans. They are probably still prioritizing prior Part 121 pilots and hoping to fit in others too, maybe they discovered their hiring pool mostly went elsewhere and are now replacing them. If you are in their hiring pool and can accept less than two weeks notice, I would email your recruiters and remind them after March 30th. I would guess the May Orientation date will be May 11th or 18th since it is always on a Thursday.

As a pilot you are always going to be a number to your employer, they may expect loyalty but they won’t give you loyalty in return and they don’t care about what is fair. Until you are actually in Orientation you don’t have a firm spot on Envoy’s training list or pilot seniority list. The good thing is that with Envoy’s orientation system they start paying you up to six weeks before you actually start ground school.

 

My guess would be fall. Apply anywhere

 

Except Envoy isn’t giving anyone a class date more than six weeks in advance. It’s definitely smart to apply to more than one regional, but you might just get a start date at Envoy by being in the right place at the right time. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.