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11-18-2021 | 08:46 AM

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Gooch

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Not taking a side either way & just gonna throw this out there…There’s now Federal case law where employees in non right to work states don’t have to pay union dues and still can maintain employment and if fired afterward, can sue all parties for wrongful termination. See link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus_v._AFSCME

Food for thought.

11-18-2021 | 09:09 AM

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Do any of those lawsuits pertain to individuals employed under the railway labor act? Because it takes precedent over state labor laws.

11-18-2021 | 10:19 AM

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Gooch

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Do any of those lawsuits pertain to individuals employed under the railway labor act? Because it takes precedent over state labor laws.

Yes. Supreme Court Case law set the precedent federally. Refer to your own state historical dockets for further info.

edit: this does not constitute legal advice.

11-18-2021 | 12:04 PM

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11-18-2021 | 02:32 PM

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I'm not on any of the social media groups. Are there guys blaming the union? Seems pretty clear to me the company is the one that arbitrarily changed the terms.

11-18-2021 | 03:02 PM

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pitchattitude

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I'm not on any of the social media groups. Are there guys blaming the union? Seems pretty clear to me the company is the one that arbitrarily changed the terms.

I think a lot of the issue has to do with a lack of transparency on the part of the union. Everyone expects that from Envoy, but it seems like the union knew a lot more about what was going on and why and chose to keep the pilots in the dark.

11-19-2021 | 08:39 AM

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Seems like this only applies to public sector unions. Am I missing something?

11-20-2021 | 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bitwiser

Seems like this only applies to public sector unions. Am I missing something?

You are not.

11-27-2021 | 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145

The best part is that there will be absolutely zero accountability for this screw up. .

Very much the opposite, some clown will show how much interest they made by being late, but not late enough to cause legal action, and will get promoted.