Envoy 2022: The Flow of Charlie Bucket
02-12-2022 | 04:33 AM
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The collapse accelerates. See you guys on one of our hundreds of 11 day off lines (9 days off after JMs and denied return days).
Even lateral moves to regionals that are dying slower are starting to make sense if QOL is a priority lmao
Even lateral moves to regionals that are dying slower are starting to make sense if QOL is a priority lmao
02-12-2022 | 06:57 AM
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March is a 30 day bid month. That tends to lower average days off but across the board average credit is way up for the month as well.
02-12-2022 | 07:40 AM
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I really don't get ex reps leaving the company and coming back here to dispense their breadth of knowledge. You and another one who left some years ago think you are like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings with your wisdom and that everyone at Envoy needs it. It comes across as extremely petty and in addition it's very obvious you are realizing what a bad decision it was to leave.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
02-12-2022 | 09:53 AM
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December to April all are 30 day bid months (leap year February ends up with 31). Why they make November 31 days and December 30 just goes to show that Envoy likes forcing square pegs into round holes.
Based on union numbers I’ve seen, March is definitely lower average days off. The slightly higher average credit doesn’t completely make up for that when compared to January. I’m thinking they are trying to cram flying into overall fewer lines to try and bump up the reserve count a few more bodies, but that’s just a guess.
In my earlier post I said March credit was “way” up. It IS up, but only slightly. After looking at the numbers a little closer “way” up isn’t really the case.
The beatings will continue until morale improves…
Based on union numbers I’ve seen, March is definitely lower average days off. The slightly higher average credit doesn’t completely make up for that when compared to January. I’m thinking they are trying to cram flying into overall fewer lines to try and bump up the reserve count a few more bodies, but that’s just a guess.
In my earlier post I said March credit was “way” up. It IS up, but only slightly. After looking at the numbers a little closer “way” up isn’t really the case.
The beatings will continue until morale improves…
02-12-2022 | 10:13 AM
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December to April all are 30 day bid months (leap year February ends up with 31). Why they make November 31 days and December 30 just goes to show that Envoy likes forcing square pegs into round holes.
Based on union numbers I’ve seen, March is definitely lower average days off. The slightly higher average credit doesn’t completely make up for that when compared to January. I’m thinking they are trying to cram flying into overall fewer lines to try and bump up the reserve count a few more bodies, but that’s just a guess.
In my earlier post I said March credit was “way” up. It IS up, but only slightly. After looking at the numbers a little closer “way” up isn’t really the case.
The beatings will continue until morale improves…
Based on union numbers I’ve seen, March is definitely lower average days off. The slightly higher average credit doesn’t completely make up for that when compared to January. I’m thinking they are trying to cram flying into overall fewer lines to try and bump up the reserve count a few more bodies, but that’s just a guess.
In my earlier post I said March credit was “way” up. It IS up, but only slightly. After looking at the numbers a little closer “way” up isn’t really the case.
The beatings will continue until morale improves…
02-12-2022 | 11:51 AM
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My point was that I've heard it said by people "it's a 30 day bid month" as though it's abnormal and thus explains whatever problem someone is complaining about. Heard it from pilots, from company, from union. But just more than half of our months are 30 day bid months. It's the norm, not the aberration.
Specifically, if the average is four hours per day, a thirty one day month will average 4 extra hours or one extra day off.
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02-12-2022 | 12:23 PM
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I think it works out to seven 30 day months and five 31 day months (except leap year with six and six) but it does tend to affect the averages.
Specifically, if the average is four hours per day, a thirty one day month will average 4 extra hours or one extra day off.
Specifically, if the average is four hours per day, a thirty one day month will average 4 extra hours or one extra day off.
02-12-2022 | 01:16 PM
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Since you don't work here anymore, how do you feel about that flow moving right along now? Could have been at AA in short order but instead you decided you knew better. I'll ask the guy that was one number junior to you to wave to you from his AA cockpit.
02-12-2022 | 01:28 PM
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“Siri, remind me in ten years to ask some guy to wave”
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