Envoy 2022: The Flow of Charlie Bucket
#81
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
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From: Whale FO
The main issue is the lack of authority at CPOs, RW and JE are the real problems. AE and especially SL are good people who do what they can. It's nuts how some people treat SL like crap (I've seen pilots hang up the phone on her). She is one of the most well connected people at the whole airline.
#82
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2016
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It's not really a CPO issue, it's the wicked witch of crew scheduling, JE and the "if I only had a brain" RW, who are the authors of most of the pain that pilots suffer. CPO can not override a day with insufficient coverage, they tried a few years ago and were stomped down. I can give you literally hundreds of examples of denied POs or PEs when staffing was inadequate, including things like funerals for family members who do not qualify for a BR. CPO wants to help, but they do not have the authority to do so. I'm not faulting them.
The main issue is the lack of authority at CPOs, RW and JE are the real problems. AE and especially SL are good people who do what they can. It's nuts how some people treat SL like crap (I've seen pilots hang up the phone on her). She is one of the most well connected people at the whole airline.
The main issue is the lack of authority at CPOs, RW and JE are the real problems. AE and especially SL are good people who do what they can. It's nuts how some people treat SL like crap (I've seen pilots hang up the phone on her). She is one of the most well connected people at the whole airline.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
#83
Line Holder
Joined: Mar 2020
Posts: 445
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I really don't get ex reps leaving the company and coming back here to dispense their breadth of knowledge. You and another one who left some years ago think you are like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings with your wisdom and that everyone at Envoy needs it. It comes across as extremely petty and in addition it's very obvious you are realizing what a bad decision it was to leave.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
#84
In a land of unicorns
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 102
From: Whale FO
I really don't get ex reps leaving the company and coming back here to dispense their breadth of knowledge. You and another one who left some years ago think you are like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings with your wisdom and that everyone at Envoy needs it. It comes across as extremely petty and in addition it's very obvious you are realizing what a bad decision it was to leave.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
#85
the only reason you may stay under a 7 year flow is because United is hiring more of your pilots than AA is.
#86
I really don't get ex reps leaving the company and coming back here to dispense their breadth of knowledge. You and another one who left some years ago think you are like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings with your wisdom and that everyone at Envoy needs it. It comes across as extremely petty and in addition it's very obvious you are realizing what a bad decision it was to leave.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
here ends the free lesson.
#87
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
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I really don't get ex reps leaving the company and coming back here to dispense their breadth of knowledge. You and another one who left some years ago think you are like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings with your wisdom and that everyone at Envoy needs it. It comes across as extremely petty and in addition it's very obvious you are realizing what a bad decision it was to leave.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
YOU certainly have added NOTHING that is beneficial to any pilot, current, past or future. You are a management shill that hides behind a screen name. Almost everyone knows who Dera is and he has done nothing he needs to hide from.
#88
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,510
Likes: 0
I really don't get ex reps leaving the company and coming back here to dispense their breadth of knowledge. You and another one who left some years ago think you are like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings with your wisdom and that everyone at Envoy needs it. It comes across as extremely petty and in addition it's very obvious you are realizing what a bad decision it was to leave.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Go ahead and get started with these "hundreds of examples" because you are first, not telling anywhere near the whole story. Secondly, you totally fabricate other things per whatever grievance you might have with the company. Face it. You left the flow for what, yeah, we know.
Fact. You don't work here and this information you are pushing here is bogus.
Or you going to just talk about that small minority that think things are OK-ish?
And while the company does seem to at least acknowledge there is a dumpster fire, they are happy to just let it burn instead of doing anything to even contain it, let alone put it out.
#89
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Joined: Sep 2019
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#90
On Reserve
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 17
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I can give you far more stories of denials for important life events than approvals, heck you might even be the one who denied someone a PO to attend an ultrasound with their wife or were you to busy investigating a 1 minute delay for the king CW
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