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dera 02-25-2022 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3379155)
Should be around 2160. Fun fact, when genius Ric decided to furlough we were at 2365. This thing is a bleeder for sure.

Saved one month in payroll and cost 250-ish long term training events and quite a few pilots who never came back, not to mention all the JMs and cancellations by being critically short on pilots. Ric and DT are both absolute mental midgets, and that was a great example of it.

ExGoCeo2001 02-27-2022 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by ClappedOut145 (Post 3379155)
Should be around 2160. Fun fact, when genius Ric decided to furlough we were at 2365. This thing is a bleeder for sure.

Poor unfortunate souls

NoValueAviator 02-28-2022 06:25 AM

I'd love to be in a meeting where peepees got slapped over some of these decisions but we all know they aren't happening. Envoy/AAG never holds failed managers accountable, only frontline people.

pitchattitude 02-28-2022 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by NoValueAviator (Post 3380515)
I'd love to be in a meeting where peepees got slapped over some of these decisions but we all know they aren't happening. Envoy/AAG never holds failed managers accountable, only frontline people.

Like anything else, they only see what they want. They see the money saved furloughing, not the expense of the additional training and not having those people available.

dera 02-28-2022 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3380595)
Like anything else, they only see what they want. They see the money saved furloughing, not the expense of the additional training and not having those people available.

Oh no, they know they screwed up.
Just that no-one has to be responsible for it. But they know exactly how many millions they wasted on that.

pitchattitude 02-28-2022 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by dera (Post 3380726)
Oh no, they know they screwed up.
Just that no-one has to be responsible for it. But they know exactly how many millions they wasted on that.

I should have been more specific. I’m sure they KNOW they wasted millions, but they only acknowledge what they saved. Tripping over dollars to save pennies.

gbo2 03-04-2022 07:51 AM

What does RW’s email mean for current 145 drivers on property? Displacements coming?

highfarfast 03-04-2022 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by gbo2 (Post 3382814)
What does RW’s email mean for current 145 drivers on property? Displacements coming?

I doubt it. Probably will be attrition based. That said, gonna suck for the junior FOs on that airplane and for junior captains on that airplane with a seat lock.

pitchattitude 03-04-2022 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by highfarfast (Post 3382866)
I doubt it. Probably will be attrition based. That said, gonna suck for the junior FOs on that airplane and for junior captains on that airplane with a seat lock.

Anybody that might have bid 145 captain on the last bid will likely be ok. I don’t see anyone preferencing the 145 now though. With displacements those folks won’t be seat locked so anyone with a seat lock should be a little more senior and won’t suck AS bad. But no way around it, still definitely going to suck if you happen to be junior.

highfarfast 03-04-2022 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by pitchattitude (Post 3382991)
Anybody that might have bid 145 captain on the last bid will likely be ok. I don’t see anyone preferencing the 145 now though. With displacements those folks won’t be seat locked so anyone with a seat lock should be a little more senior and won’t suck AS bad. But no way around it, still definitely going to suck if you happen to be junior.

I would NOT preference bif 145 now. That s for sure.


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