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Originally Posted by fatman
(Post 3384433)
They also mentioned the possible return of the standing vacancies. The past couple months I’ve flown with several FOs that had the time and seniority but were all holding out because they weren’t sure they’d get the 175.
I’d expect that mentality to continue into the future bids. I imagine everyone going to 145CA in the future bids will all be displacements. Then of course when the next bid comes, they’ll all jump ship to the 175. Further backing up training. if only this company could be proactive for once |
Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 3384508)
I don't know about ALL. There is the 30% limitation. But yeah, they'll do that, back up training, and it will be expensive with even more collective time with our pilots going through long term while we're short staffed. Seems like there could be a better way.
But the reality is that likely isn’t enough under current circumstances to keep people from jumping which says they need more incentive to stay where they are. |
Originally Posted by pitchattitude
(Post 3384510)
There is: Accept the seat lock for an additional five hours of pay.
But the reality is that likely isn’t enough under current circumstances to keep people from jumping which says they need more incentive to stay where they are. |
Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 3384558)
Yeah, I don't think that's enough given the fleet draw down of the 145. It was a very different situation a couple years back when that LOA was implemented and that still wasn't enough for some people then. Also, I think the value of that LOA took a huge hit when we learned the company can cancel that five hours of pay per month if they ever found the desire to.
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
(Post 3384984)
i think a bonus to take DCE/OCE is the way to go. 10k/year.
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
(Post 3384558)
Also, I think the value of that LOA took a huge hit when we learned the company can cancel that five hours of pay per month if they ever found the desire to.
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Originally Posted by MidsizeSUV
(Post 3385046)
That cancels the seat lock too. Take my money? I’ll go sit in a class room for 2 months waiting for somebody else to call.
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In this current environment of super duper critical triple fudge coverage, being on the 175 is worth like 50k a year if you do even a little bit of OT.
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Originally Posted by NoValueAviator
(Post 3385079)
In this current environment of super duper critical triple fudge coverage, being on the 175 is worth like 50k a year if you do even a little bit of OT.
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Originally Posted by AV8R72
(Post 3384984)
i think a bonus to take DCE/OCE is the way to go. 10k/year.
But losing someone for two months during a second long term training event plus the cost of training itself (actual cost plus both are opportunity costs) need to be looked at and factored in, but the company has shown both unwillingness to work with the union and pilots and likely because they are unable to see the TRUE cost of not fixing these problems. |
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