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Old 06-21-2014 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
I bet they will but I find it hard to believe that Envoy will be the ONLY way to AA. People won't make the sacrifice in pay. Especially Mil people.
Too bad for them. They can get go somewhere else or get in line like the rest of us.
Old 06-21-2014 | 08:07 AM
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in a normal bell curve it takes into acct the very negative to the overly optimistic. yes we grade on the curve in Forum World
Old 06-21-2014 | 08:23 AM
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Too bad for them. They can get go somewhere else or get in line like the rest of us.
AA hiring has primarily been Military since last year correct? Obviously they care about hiring Mil pilots. I highly doubt a military pilot will go that route when they can go to Delta and United instead of having to fly at Envoy for $30000 for a few years.
Old 06-21-2014 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
Too bad for them. They can get go somewhere else or get in line like the rest of us.
AA hiring has primarily been Military since last year correct? Obviously they care about hiring Mil pilots. I highly doubt a military pilot will go that route when they can go to Delta and United instead of having to fly at Envoy for $30000 for a few years.
Well, let them go to Delta and United. A lot of pilots are being service this company for year, they should be ahead of any military pilot.

I don't know why people think they are entitled for a job. Yes, they serve the country and we should be grateful, but a civilian job is a civilian job and should be start from the bottom.
Old 06-21-2014 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3
Well, let them go to Delta and United. A lot of pilots are being service this company for year, they should be ahead of any military pilot.

I don't know why people think they are entitled for a job. Yes, they serve the country and we should be grateful, but a civilian job is a civilian job and should be start from the bottom.
Isn't the entitlement the same? Ya you've been owned by AA but your not AA pilots. The same as Endeavor pilots are not Delta pilots and have been turned down by Delta for thinking that.
Old 06-21-2014 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
Isn't the entitlement the same? Ya you've been owned by AA but your not AA pilots. The same as Endeavor pilots are not Delta pilots and have been turned down by Delta for thinking that.
One could argue all those guys except a few hired since the buyout were hired by colgan pinnacle and mesaba. They never got hired at a delta subsidy.

Eagle pilots did, and they also prior to ch11 got the full pilots flow rights.

I'm not arguing beyond that.
Old 06-21-2014 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
AA hiring has primarily been Military since last year correct?
No, it hasn't. Roughly 25% maybe of classes. Maybe slight less, maybe slightly more.
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Originally Posted by F2m185
If RAH owns the 170's that they operate for American how does American get 20 of them?
American Airlines Group has the ability to assume the leases on the aircraft if RAH is unable to meet certain performance targets.
Old 06-21-2014 | 09:22 AM
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If I recall correctly, The Ex Mid-Atlantic 170s are leased to RAH from US Airways (now AAG). Those could be the 170s that are being referred to, although I have no idea.
Old 06-21-2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by JT8D
According to people on EL, all you know how to do is b tch. That says a lot coming from some of them...
I'm flattered I've been talked about over there. I refuse to pay 1 bent nickel to log on those forums, I've never been. I hear from people talking about it frequently enough to know 99% of the stuff over there will never happen though.
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