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07-08-2014 | 08:35 AM

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griff312

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Why Philly? Eagle has nothing in Philly. Just a few turns on the CRJ (actually, I think RAH does that now), and nothing else. It's definitely not an EGL (envoy) base, nor an AA base. Just a large Airways 190 base. Oooh Ooooh, I know! We're getting the 190's!!!! Actually, that would be BAD. Those (along with the 175's) need to be / stay on the mainline side.
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07-08-2014 | 08:53 AM

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RyanP

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That was the "old" MEC who liked to have meetings at baseball games..

07-08-2014 | 09:07 AM

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He's already said revealing anything else will hurt our position. Shut up and let our reps do their jobs. Some of you are so desperate for a shred of news. Go outside, it's summer.

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07-08-2014 | 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by griff312

PHL is a fairly large base for US Airways...now the new American Airlines. They do quite a few flights to Europe from PHL for example.

Still not sure what PHL has to do with anything. Perhaps the company and union are trying to meet somewhere "off the grid" so as to avoid unfortunate pop ins from disgruntled employees.

07-08-2014 | 09:25 AM

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embraer

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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader

And by "The people in the know", you mean the mysterious prophet Mason? He has said things like this before and then it either gets "moved" or the "news" is weak, and nothing what he supposed, but takes credit for it anyway.

You are going all in with your anti-Mason crusade, aren't you? That is a big gamble seeing as how Mason has been so accurate in the past.

If/When all he is saying starts to come true what will you have to say then? Or will you just back away slowly into the shadows hoping that we all forget how much you hammered the guy?

07-08-2014 | 09:34 AM

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pagey

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Originally Posted by embraer

Why doesn't some one just go through the post history and see what has, and has not come true?

Then you can stop squabbling over if he is right or not and hope for some good news. Or maybe you could shoot over to the PSA thread right quick and call me names instead of Mason.

The possibilities are endless.

07-08-2014 | 09:35 AM

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pagey

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Also,

Isn't the fact that they are even talking good news after they said(like 4 times) that they were done talking.

07-08-2014 | 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot

Nah, he never flew the CRJ. EMJ check airman that flowed 2-3yrs ago with a huge ego.

Oh and yes, my sources say he is BB in another forum.

Never a check airman. You're still on the "Joey" kick and that's wrong too. Considering you're 0-for-2, I'd say your "sources" are worthless for just about everything.

07-08-2014 | 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tsuda

I think Eaglefly is the future anti-Christ. One day he will unite all the world governments, and rule them from his MD-80 cockpit. All the while tormenting Envoy pilots on airline forums to his amusement.

Considering I'm FOR Envoy pilots, it's strange SOME of them see me as a tormentor. But, that's understandable as that was one of my points (painful as it is). Let's face it.......if a guy like me can tie some of you in knots (and why, I don't know), imagine what managements high-paid professional manipulators can and have done ?

I question if anything has really changed since I left. If anything, it sounds worse.

07-08-2014 | 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SrfNFly227

A question from an outsider. A lot of us have now received emails stating that hiring has been combined and that new hires will be assigned to US or AA based on need. Does anybody know how the Eagle flow is affected by this? If I remember right, your flow is based on a percentage of AA new hire class size, but the classes will now be larger and will be split between the two carriers. Will you get a percentage of the combined class?

That MAY now be subjective. The question is "what" is AA for the purposes of the Envoy flow now that the carrier is merged. Sure there are still two (or three depending on your angle) seniority lists, but does the 824 flow language guarantee placement on the present APA seniority list or a just a "position at AA", which in managements interpretation could be initial assignment to the US Airways side ?

Should management attempt to interpret that and it goes to arbitration, how would an arbitrator rule ?

I'm not stating an answer, but asking a question. Has the Envoy MEC addressed this ? Will this be an aspect of a future agreement offer that Mason says is imminent ?