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Tsuda 08-09-2014 04:50 PM

Since you're willing to post Ray's name, and besmirch him; man up and put your name behind your accusation. If not, shut up you coward.

Bzzt 08-09-2014 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1702571)
Since you're willing to post Ray's name, and besmirch him; man up and put your name behind your accusation. If not, shut up you coward.

It really doesn't matter who he is, only if his information is accurate.

embraer 08-09-2014 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1702581)
It really doesn't matter who he is, only if his information is accurate.

This is true....

atpcliff 08-09-2014 05:48 PM


Pay comes up, bs management stuff stops, pilots come out of the wood work and $mart kids will want to ri$k 150k to be a pilot.
Last I heard, banks weren't loaning money for flight training...so only rich kids can do it.

buddies8 08-09-2014 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by 1pilotwings256 (Post 1702534)
Ray Igou is responsible for the breakdown in negotiations with the company by disclosing to them our lowest threshold in acceptability and thus "showing all our cards"
well the company should know without anyone saying anything that the minimum is our current contract which is good for another 6+ years

That Ray went behind the MECs back in a John Glenna fashion with this informationif true bad for ray

That with this information, the company has in so many words told the negotiators to F offwho cares what the company says, i have been telling them to f off for years, so what

That Ray aka Cujo is Mason32 and was identified by disinformation ala The Departed.ooooooooooooo

And that, in short, Ray/Cujo is responsible for ultimately and completely screwing us all over.i have a contract, so how did ray screw us over

Would you believe me?

F'n NO

so are you a left over tony scum or a management loser like JG. Or are you the one that wants to sell everyone out for nothing in return. Go back with the rest of your skunk mambers

JohnGardner 08-09-2014 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy (Post 1702562)
John, you and Ray are having a tiff, we get it. Please keep it out of the public, its unbecoming.

If you are talking about me, that isn't me posting that. For all eagle pilots here, you should be contacting your MEC leadership or elected reps for information. Also not sure why you think ray and I are having a tiff.

QuagmireGiggity 08-09-2014 06:23 PM

Word at Elounge is this is true.

Down wind 08-09-2014 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by 1pilotwings256 (Post 1702534)
Ray Igou is responsible for the breakdown in negotiations with the company by disclosing to them our lowest threshold in acceptability and thus "showing all our cards"

That Ray went behind the MECs back in a John Glenna fashion with this information

That with this information, the company has in so many words told the negotiators to F off

That Ray aka Cujo is Mason32 and was identified by disinformation ala The Departed.

And that, in short, Ray/Cujo is responsible for ultimately and completely screwing us all over.

Would you believe me?

Matt is that you? Tony? Glenna? Fatopolous? I know, you're the intern at collaborative labor group.
Never heard such a lot of crap since the tony mafia was in office.

embraer 08-09-2014 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Down wind (Post 1702630)
Matt is that you? Tony? Glenna? Fatopolous? I know, you're the intern at collaborative labor group.
Never heard such a lot of crap since the tony mafia was in office.

Tony mafia? Perhaps there was one...but if any of this is true and any of you are still defending Ray then you are officially part of the Ray mafia.

As far as I'm concerned he is innocent until proven guilty. But it's not looking good.

lakehouse 08-09-2014 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by JohnGardner (Post 1702627)
If you are talking about me, that isn't me posting that. For all eagle pilots here, you should be contacting your MEC leadership or elected reps for information. Also not sure why you think ray and I are having a tiff.

Like the other day when you forgot you were still logged in as Jwall and not johngardener on eaglelounge.


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