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lavMan 08-24-2014 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Tsuda (Post 1711160)
According to Val J. the group after the 824 do not carry over any vacation seniority or short term sick accrual. He told me that about two months ago.

A: Envoy pilots transfer to AA with their full company seniority but because they have not worked
at AA, they have not accrued any vacation for the following fiscal year.

: All unused and accrued vacation time, including your carryover, will be paid from the vacation
portion of your PTO, provided your PTO bank has sufficient hours.


Q: What happens to my short term sick time?
A: Your short term sick PTO transfers with you to American.

I found it on the flow through Q&A page. That's what I was referencing.

Gspeed 08-24-2014 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by lavMan (Post 1711917)
A: Envoy pilots transfer to AA with their full company seniority but because they have not worked
at AA, they have not accrued any vacation for the following fiscal year.

: All unused and accrued vacation time, including your carryover, will be paid from the vacation
portion of your PTO, provided your PTO bank has sufficient hours.


Q: What happens to my short term sick time?
A: Your short term sick PTO transfers with you to American.

I found it on the flow through Q&A page. That's what I was referencing.

Typical Val. Always full of info. Rarely accurate.

Tsuda 08-24-2014 05:06 PM

Yeah, that is from the 824 Flowthrough Q&A. I was referring to the pilots after the 824.

Gspeed 08-24-2014 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by tsuda (Post 1711979)
yeah, that is from the 824 flowthrough q&a. I was referring to the pilots after the 824.

loa 12-02.

hungryCFI 08-26-2014 10:55 AM

Anyone know how soon I should be hearing from HR? I submitted my app on Friday.

bretthull 08-26-2014 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by hungryCFI (Post 1713128)
Anyone know how soon I should be hearing from HR? I submitted my app on Friday.

I have never been one of those "don't come here" types but as of last week the future of envoy I'd very uncertain. Management has no intentions on refleeting us and is apt to let our aircraft retire over the next few years. Unless something changes things will become more stagnant than they already are. Expect to spend at least 2 years on reserve and no upgrade for at least 7. That being said I imagine you will hear something from the recruiting department soon.

theycallmered 08-26-2014 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by bretthull (Post 1713133)
I have never been one of those "don't come here" types but as of last week the future of envoy I'd very uncertain. Management has no intentions on refleeting us and is apt to let our aircraft retire over the next few years. Unless something changes things will become more stagnant than they already are. Expect to spend at least 2 years on reserve and no upgrade for at least 7. That being said I imagine you will hear something from the recruiting department soon.

I kept thinking the "don't come here crowd" were just negative. But the more I hear the more I'm glad I'm looking elsewhere. I met a former eagle captain today who was extremely disgruntled and warned me not to take my class date.

hungryCFI 08-26-2014 11:16 AM

I've applied to Compass as well, however with no 4 year degree, I'm not holding my breath. I suppose I am more optimistic than most that things at Envoy will get better. I do not think a shutdown is in the works, and statistically, people will start flowing in greater numbers. I really think mgmt is using fear the most right now b/c that's all they have. I also believe the regional model as we know it won't be around for much longer. I'm actually pretty optimistic about the future.

Bzzt 08-26-2014 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by hungryCFI (Post 1713142)
I've applied to Compass as well, however with no 4 year degree, I'm not holding my breath. I suppose I am more optimistic than most that things at Envoy will get better. I do not think a shutdown is in the works, and statistically, people will start flowing in greater numbers. I really think mgmt is using fear the most right now b/c that's all they have. I also believe the regional model as we know it won't be around for much longer. I'm actually pretty optimistic about the future.

The regionals will beat that optimism out of you pretty quick.

Tsuda 08-26-2014 12:31 PM

That's the Truth!


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