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Old 09-04-2014 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Envoy people...... FLY SAFE!!! Really, Really, Really SAFE!!!!
Why, so you can be next in line to take our s hit?

GFYS.
Old 09-04-2014 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Crawl
What's the source of this wonderful quote?
PSA's MEC chair in a blastmail today.

Full communication:

September 4, 2014

Dear PSA Pilots:

Today American Airlines Group announced that 47 CRJ-701 aircraft will be transferred from Envoy to PSA beginning in mid-2015. This decision was made by Group management to rationally align fleet types and reduce costs. The tough choices that we made last year to trade certain high longevity and benefit provisions for things we valued more—career progression and job security—have again borne fruit for this pilot group.

While growth is good for our airline, my heart goes out to our ALPA colleagues at Envoy who will be affected by this move. I pledge to work with our management and Envoy’s ALPA leadership to find jobs for any Envoy pilot who wants to work at PSA. We have a duty to take care of our fellow pilots in their time of need.

As we continue to place 30 CRJ-900s into service and follow with these 47 CRJ-701s, we will undoubtedly find it more difficult to attract qualified pilots to the airline. We must improve key contractual provisions to complete that task. A full-fledged flow-through without an interview and starting pay that more adequately reflects our level of training and qualifications are the first items on that list.

Finally, please handle this announcement with the aplomb and grace of a professional PSA pilot. We may deal with pilots who have varied views on our growth and I encourage you to help educate them on the best terms of our contract. It’s a good day for PSA and our collective future.

In unity,

Jesse A. Coeling
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A real flow with all that growth? Good luck! I really hope they whithold as much they can and get rid if the SAP.
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Originally Posted by buddies8
no, if he cant get envoy pilots to fill PSA classes, all they have then is aircraft sitting on the ramp collecting AAG fools gold dust.
How many envoy pilots would go to PSA? Or do they all despise PSA? Serious question.
Old 09-04-2014 | 05:01 PM
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majority have furlough protection (hopefully) and everyone hired October 2011 and before have jobs waiting at AA if they want to wait.. most F/O's that i know including captains are getting jobs at Allegiant, Cathay Pacific, Qatar, Emirates, Jet Blue, Spirit and a few in Delta and United, some have gotten hired of the street side into AA. So to answer your question, no they can get a job elsewhere they do not need lateral regional F/O job. Maybe one or two will but I seriously doubt it greatly.
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"This change will simplify Envoy’s operation considerably and lower AAG’s overall costs, therefore enhancing profitability."

Is that true or they doing it because they can?
Old 09-04-2014 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ClarenceOver
"This change will simplify Envoy’s operation considerably and lower AAG’s overall costs, therefore enhancing profitability."

Is that true or they doing it because they can?
That's standard corporate boilerplate language. Translated: 'The folks in the C-suite at AAG and Envoy have agreed that two beach houses and two Swiss ski chalets per executive is simply insufficient compensation. Additional houses are required, in addition to house staff. As such, we are taking steps to increase our profitability, bump our stock prices up a couple bucks, and acquire said holiday residences with cash.'
Old 09-04-2014 | 05:50 PM
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September 4, 2014

Dear PSA Pilots:

Today American Airlines Group announced that 47 CRJ-701 aircraft will be transferred from Envoy to PSA beginning in mid-2015. This decision was made by Group management to rationally align fleet types and reduce costs. The tough choices that we made last year to trade certain high longevity and benefit provisions for things we valued more—career progression and job security—have again borne fruit for this pilot group.

While growth is good for our airline, my heart goes out to our ALPA colleagues at Envoy who will be affected by this move. I pledge to work with our management and Envoy’s ALPA leadership to find jobs for any Envoy pilot who wants to work at PSA. We have a duty to take care of our fellow pilots in their time of need.

As we continue to place 30 CRJ-900s into service and follow with these 47 CRJ-701s, we will undoubtedly find it more difficult to attract qualified pilots to the airline. We must improve key contractual provisions to complete that task. A full-fledged flow-through without an interview and starting pay that more adequately reflects our level of training and qualifications are the first items on that list.

Finally, please handle this announcement with the aplomb and grace of a professional PSA pilot. We may deal with pilots who have varied views on our growth and I encourage you to help educate them on the best terms of our contract. It’s a good day for PSA and our collective future.

In unity,

Jesse A. Coeling
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The irony that he signs the thing "In Unity".....you have to be kidding me. What a joke he is to send this out.
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Originally Posted by Beech90
How many envoy pilots would go to PSA? Or do they all despise PSA? Serious question.
I heard Envoy pilots are already in classes at PSA
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Old 09-04-2014 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tjr0806
I heard Envoy pilots are already in classes at PSA
Maybe one or two misfits, but naturally that is a RUMOR which PSA pukes would like to propagate.
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