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buddies8 11-18-2014 06:17 AM

Allison you still here fighting for glass and company.
I don't gaf where the flying goes. Aag controls that and the aircraft assignments not I or any pilot group. Envoy can cease today, I don't give a F. Flow bee wanna bees can rot as far as I am concerned. It is these wanna bees that changed our scope well before bankruptcy because they are clueless as to what was in there contract.

Mec don't need a deal. 4 years to shut down 1000 pilots flow during this period. Another 800 hired elsewhere, we don't need to deal with aag. Time and numbers are on our side. Doug and glass can f themselves all day.
Same outcome with or without a deal. Envoy gone. Ground service company only. Just ask Pedro.

eaglefly 11-18-2014 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllisonRR (Post 1765712)
......... It is time to understand our problem and move on.

If only you could learn to take your own advice. :cool:

eaglefly 11-18-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1765741)
Allison you still here fighting for glass and company.
I don't gaf where the flying goes. Aag controls that and the aircraft assignments not I or any pilot group. Envoy can cease today, I don't give a F. Flow bee wanna bees can rot as far as I am concerned. It is these wanna bees that changed our scope well before bankruptcy because they are clueless as to what was in there contract.

Mec don't need a deal. 4 years to shut down 1000 pilots flow during this period. Another 800 hired elsewhere, we don't need to deal with aag. Time and numbers are on our side. Doug and glass can f themselves all day.
Same outcome with or without a deal. Envoy gone. Ground service company only. Just ask Pedro.

Agreed. It will get worse before its gets better though. Kinda like a cancer patient going through painful treatment to ultimately recover. It's worse when you're doing that but have to tolerate salesman like Allison (and others) desperately trying to sell you counterfeit placebos at the same time telling you "this" is your cure.

Be patient, stick it out and say no to the crooked salesman. ;)

AllisonRR 11-18-2014 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1765716)
You can't do that, you have to fight this to the end if for no other reason then how the group is and was collectively treating pilots at other carriers such as PSA. What are you going to do say sorry psa guys?

Don't fall over now!!

Ok thanks.

AllisonRR 11-18-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1765741)
Allison you still here fighting for glass and company.
I don't gaf where the flying goes. Aag controls that and the aircraft assignments not I or any pilot group. Envoy can cease today, I don't give a F. Flow bee wanna bees can rot as far as I am concerned. It is these wanna bees that changed our scope well before bankruptcy because they are clueless as to what was in there contract.

Mec don't need a deal. 4 years to shut down 1000 pilots flow during this period. Another 800 hired elsewhere, we don't need to deal with aag. Time and numbers are on our side. Doug and glass can f themselves all day.
Same outcome with or without a deal. Envoy gone. Ground service company only. Just ask Pedro.

If you don't care just leave. No one will miss you.

The planes will go to a lower bidder, yet you are standing for the industry? You fail to make a coherent statement based on facts.

You don't know 800 pilots will get hired somewhere else at a better pay. We have lost many to jobs they wouldn't have taken if it wasn't because people like you made assumptions based on fairy tales. What makes you think we have four years? So your 824 not all will get to go.

This is business for AAG and if you don't like it quit. Buddies and his band of nearsighted friends have made an impressive campaign and everything that it has been posted has been wrong. Time to give up haters.

buddies8 11-18-2014 09:06 AM

You issued my post. I don't gaf about the junior or senior pilot, they equal voted and changed scope which has brought this scenario. You are correct I won't be missed just like your spineless position. Don't get cut sucking up to glass. You make assumptions on fairy tales.

How many yes votes got rid of lax, one. Rid of half ord, one. Rid of half dfw, one. Your yes vote has done more damage here than aag could.

Why don't you leave and just don't come around until you grow some balls

Spoiler 11-18-2014 11:51 AM

They want to shut it down well before that so they can use the FlowThrough bait elsewhere

Bzzt 11-18-2014 01:20 PM

If you're at Envoy and hoping something good will happen it's not. Look at buddies and realize that is 70% of your peers. The top are bitter old men that the industry passed by and the bottom are children being fed fairy tales and told to stand up for the industry.

I've got 1 week left and even that is too much. Good bye and good riddance.

chignutsak 11-18-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1766064)
I've got 1 week left and even that is too much. Good bye and good riddance.

Let it be known, that on this date in history, not a single **** was given.

billyho 11-18-2014 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chignutsak (Post 1766071)
Let it be known, that on this date in history, not a single **** was given.

'Prost'!!!!!!


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