Match point....they're somewhat trolling in attempt to derail the thread. Stuff about the "new TA" is being leaked by mgmt to get an idea on what they can cut out or what they should add to get 51%. People need not argue on the forums on what the TA should include. So, people are just saying outrageous stuff to get it off topic. Instead of saying what we would actually like on here, envoy pilots need to communicate with their reps.

well every one in my alcoholic group (excluding doug) are NO votes, forever true NO.

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OK so 300 topped out but the 824 list is essentially solid "accept when offered" after that so the point is moot

I made a great southwest style chicken dish.

Make whole grain brown rice.

Cook cut up boneless skinless chicken breast in coconut oil. Cook. Add a hearty amount of salsa, a litte tomato sauce, frozen mix of stir fry veggies. Add some water. Next add beans like black beans. Corn if you want. ADD DICED PINNAPLE. Simmer and serve over the rice. Freezes well for road meals in glass Pyrex.

My only point spoiler is that the 12/4 cap doesn't apply to the top of the list. How many pilots does PSA want? Even if it's a 1,000, we're still going to cost much more.

Thanks for the solid,and from the heart advice, Pedro!

I don't understand why whenever someone with a different point of view, expressing their opinion other than "burn it down" or "no forever" gets some smarta** remark.

Management always lurk around forums. In really you wouldn't know if someone is a pilot or management.

I think is a great idea, not to discuss "leaked" or "rumors" while in negotiations. That way our guys can do a better job and not get shoot down by management saying "but in the forums we can see people agreeing to ..."