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mr25cents 12-23-2014 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 1788813)
I was under the impression that that didn't apply to new equipment coming onto property?

Question1. Will current FOs be able to bid the 175 or will it be new hires only. Example as when the nextgen CRJs came on property and were placed in NY the EMB FOs could not bid it.

Answer: According to 15.G.2.a of our CBA, a turbo-jet FO may not bid to different turbo-jet equipment.

squawkoff 12-23-2014 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by mr25cents (Post 1788821)
Question1. Will current FOs be able to bid the 175 or will it be new hires only. Example as when the nextgen CRJs came on property and were placed in NY the EMB FOs could not bid it.

Answer: According to 15.G.2.a of our CBA, a turbo-jet FO may not bid to different turbo-jet equipment.

Thank you. I stand corrected.

PilotJ3 12-23-2014 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by mr25cents (Post 1788821)
Question1. Will current FOs be able to bid the 175 or will it be new hires only. Example as when the nextgen CRJs came on property and were placed in NY the EMB FOs could not bid it.

Answer: According to 15.G.2.a of our CBA, a turbo-jet FO may not bid to different turbo-jet equipment.

That's wrong, a New equipment can be bid by FOs on the first bid is my understanding.

eaglefly 12-23-2014 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1788801)
LOL'd Funny thing was that everyone laughed at him behind his back.

Specially FA's.

Good Luck.

Talking to yourself again, eh ?

Perhaps you're playing forum tag with your clueless F/O while at the gate in DFW ?

Naahhh.........you're talking to yourself.

Good Luck. ;)

eaglefly 12-23-2014 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by mr25cents (Post 1788821)
Question1. Will current FOs be able to bid the 175 or will it be new hires only. Example as when the nextgen CRJs came on property and were placed in NY the EMB FOs could not bid it.

Answer: According to 15.G.2.a of our CBA, a turbo-jet FO may not bid to different turbo-jet equipment.

Only 40 are on the way right ?

That's perhaps 200 F/O's and I'm sure those bids will go senior, possibly with the exception of the junior RSV's. In that case, you'd be on reserve forever and that will get old VERY fast, especially if you commute. It would seem anyone wanting to go to Envoy should anticipate a banged up old E-145, but you'll get to fly with a few "real men" captains there in DFW, where men are men and the sheep are nervous. :rolleyes:

deadreckoning 12-23-2014 08:11 AM

Read the contract guys.

J. INTRODUCTION OF NEW EQUIPMENT 1. When new equipment is introduced at a domicile, any pilot may bid for and be awarded a vacancy created in the new equipment in order of system seniority, in accordance with his permanent bid file.

m78fl370 12-23-2014 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1788835)
That's wrong, a New equipment can be bid by FOs on the first bid is my understanding.

This is correct.

mr25cents 12-23-2014 08:18 AM

I stand corrected, corrected

eaglefly 12-23-2014 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by deadreckoning (Post 1788844)
Read the contract guys.

J. INTRODUCTION OF NEW EQUIPMENT 1. When new equipment is introduced at a domicile, any pilot may bid for and be awarded a vacancy created in the new equipment in order of system seniority, in accordance with his permanent bid file.

But again, if you're junior or even worse you have yet to arrive, plan on a terrible lifestyle for the opportunity to fly a shiny new jet for peanuts.

PilotJ3 12-23-2014 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1788858)
But again, if you're junior or even worse you have yet to arrive, plan on a terrible lifestyle for the opportunity to fly a shiny new jet for peanuts.

I believe it will go Jr on the FO side. Most of the 2008 and 2010 hires don't want to be 1 yr seat lock if the upgrade is approaching in the next 2 years.


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