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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1788449)

Once envy pilots stop the race to the bottom by voting NO tomm, AAG will announce those E175's to Compass.

Stay Stong eny Pilots. Do what's best for the industry.

Good Luck.

We've been doing what's best for the industry, while the rest of the "industry" has been doing what's best for them. This time, we need to do what's best for "us". Flame away.

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Originally Posted by NovemberBravo (Post 1788524)

Didn't the vote close today, when do you guys get the results?

Closes tomorrow (23rd).

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Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1788499)

Can't wait til this vote is over so that you will give it a rest

Don't bet on it. He still works there and more surprises are sure to come, so he'll remain fully engaged. BTW, his claim of supporting a rejection is all just more B.S. He's full throttle for ratification because as always, "it's good for him".

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Originally Posted by 35Right (Post 1788552)

We've been doing what's best for the industry, while the rest of the "industry" has been doing what's best for them. This time, we need to do what's best for "us". Flame away.

No flames from him. He's a solid yes, not because it's good for Envoy pilots, but because it's good for him. If it requires throwing you under a bus in the future to grease his ride, expect to get tossed.

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1786064)

Well Nancey, I hate to break it to you but I don't have a say on this since I no longer work at envoy. But I agree in everything you said, and I am sure every OTHER regional, especially Compass, have your way of thinking.

Vote NO eny, Keep the solidarity, Concession stand is closed. Just give everything to the Compass, Mesa, TSA.

eny pilots Proudly "defending the profession in exchange for nothing" since 2014.....

Good Luck.

By far the best thing ever posted to this thread. I tip my hat to you RJ

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Originally Posted by wareagle (Post 1785660)

That's why I said "in effect." The money owed that I was referring to is the amendment round credit. However, this group of pilots was almost undoubtedly going to reject the PBS system, and the penalty for that was a certain amount of money that ALPA would then owe the company. I'm saying, IN EFFECT, this money and the amendment round credit would have canceled out, and since I don't see any option in the TA for us to reject PBS after the 40th RJ, it looks to me like PBS is a sure eventuality once we sign, and therefore, in effect we're taking a payout but losing our ability to reject PBS. I could be wrong, that's just how I read it in the TA.

TA reads in part
"It is the parties’ intent to complete PBS implementation as outlined in Letter 13-04 no later than 120 days after delivery of the 41st EMB-175."

Please see LOA 13-04
"Ratification of a PBS LOA, in accordance with ALPA administrative policies, will be required prior to EGL implementing any PBS for the purposes of constructing and awarding pilot monthly schedules."

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1786281)

Likewise frosty tips.

Good Luck.

So eaglefly frosts his tips, plays laser tag/paintball, and trolls every single Envoy thread in his free time?? Gentleman, lock up your ladies. Eaglefly sounds like a serious stud muffin.

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1782404)

envoy pilots need to get the E-175's first. If not, Compass will get them. Find out what are the junior bases at Compass.

Good Luck.

Not trying to flame, and I hope the best for Envoy pilots, but if this TA doesn't pass, why does everyone think the 175s will go to Compass?... What puts compass in a better position than say RAH? The fact that compass can staff?

Yeah that about covers it

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1782404)

envoy pilots need to get the E-175's first. If not, Compass will get them. Find out what are the junior bases at Compass.

Good Luck.

The fact that the contract that placed the first 20 there included the option for AAG to place more there without having to renegotiate anything. That option period window is not indefinite.

What time does your voting window close?