Thread title is misleading, it should read "PDT has been lied to".

Actually envoys fleet commitment specifies the 60 order and 90 options that have been made. Pdt does not I believe specify where they will come from except if not from current options then from any option order later exercised they get the first 20 from that option conversion. Gotta love legal language

So they come up another concessionary cba and give you guys just a handful of days to vote on it right in the busiest season of the year for every families... I's question your union about this, this is shady as fûc.
Smells like management wants all the odds in their favor on this one. Emotional voting... Airplanes & flow carrots. I hope this doesn't pass, but I don't work there. What a joke!

Those two usually go hand in hand. Everybody should know by now that Envoy's loss is other airlines' gain.

No one lied to us. We will operate 145s and dashes for a couple years. Then when those options come into effect and you run out of pilots, we will lend a hand. With all that flow you have you can t have it both ways. See ya then ;)

I don't agree. I also doubt that they would shut doen envoy.
Especially considering the timing on this cba...
And personally, I don't have anything to win from Envoy's loss.

Who do you work for?

There. Fixed it for YOU.


Good Luck.

You are right. It took eny pilots close to a year to realize this. But when you have the "Jesters" and company telling you otherwise and then fleeing like roaches to AA.....


Good Luck.

Luckily the Jester left and took his Gardner with him.