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Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1783023)

Luckily the Jester left and took his Gardner with him.

I see the second mentioned above in social media spewing his crap still. Amazing.

Good Luck.

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1783025)

I see the second mentioned above in social media spewing his crap still. Amazing.

Good Luck.

Not just social media. He is on all the forums still spewing the same crap...except now he is doing it from his perch at AA.

Pathetic.

I think its pretty clear. PSA, PDT, Compass, TSA ,XJET, RAH,are all waiting (salivating) on the TA results. It seems that finally the eny pilots are awake this time. With eny getting replacement jets and a enhanced flow to AA, I can see FO's from other regionals going to eny. What other subpar regional out there offers the flow that eny is offering?

Good Luck.

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Originally Posted by embraer (Post 1783012)

Who do you work for?

A private aircraft owner for the last 6 months, I was flying a rj before that.

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Originally Posted by tuktukdriver (Post 1782984)

So they come up another concessionary cba and give you guys just a handful of days to vote on it right in the busiest season of the year for every families... I's question your union about this, this is shady as fûc.
Smells like management wants all the odds in their favor on this one. Emotional voting... Airplanes & flow carrots. I hope this doesn't pass, but I don't work there. What a joke!

ALPA has been in managements pocket there since the 1980's. :cool:

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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX (Post 1782950)

IBT is and have not been approached about the 175's and AFA is t but also, has not entered talks about 175's.

There is CLEARLY obligation for those talks on AMR's part.

THEY ARE DEALING THE PLANES TO BOTH OF US. Like I said before, I'm not trying to start a fight, just pointing out this issue and rumor has it talks are underway high within ALPA, PDT ALPA and other parties re this issue.

I'm not stating a fight. Just trying to look every possible outcome. I can have my point of view and you can have yours.

Just to be clear what I understand from PDT contract and what you understand might be something totally different than what management understand.

At the end I believe PDT and Envoy will be merged. Probably a couple of years down the road when pilot pool get dryer. I believe they want as much SR guys out of here sooner and that will take a couple of years.

If you read our TA is targeted to the NH. Every FO at Envoy is protected in the current payscale. They don't want us to be here much longer, neither the PDT sr guys. The flow in this TA is targeted to the 824 and Protected pilots to be gone in the next 6 years. Of course it depends on hiring.

I don't know if there are enough pilots to cover the gap.

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1783055)

ALPA has been in managements pocket there since the 1980's. :cool:

Hands down the best post on APC. ^^^TRUE STATEMENT^^^^

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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1783034)

I can totally agree with this. Its time to get the airplanes and stop the happy jumping at other regionals. This could be turned in a minute if they want, but gotta to agree in a deal.

So, I rather shrink getting airplanes than shrink without them.

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Originally Posted by eaglefly (Post 1783055)

ALPA has been in managements pocket there since the 1980's. :cool:

Seems like it... This is a total sell out. ALPA is toxic for all regionals anyway.

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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 1783064)

So, I rather shrink getting airplanes than shrink without them.

Plus with the "bribe" money, is a NO brainer.

Good Luck.