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billyho 12-11-2014 09:34 AM

Where's Diva, V1Rot8 and old JDT8 been?? Crickets after running there mouths forever about Piedmont's TA.

RJ Pilot 12-11-2014 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1781046)
Where's Diva, V1Rot8 and old JDT8 been?? Crickets after running there mouths forever about Piedmont's TA.

They probably went to PDT-PSA-CMPZ. Like spineless eny FO's are doing.

Good Luck.

pagey 12-11-2014 11:08 AM

Does anyone else think the the "good luck" that RJ writes after every single post is by far the most infuriating this he's ever done.

I guess he can say that now since he's a GV captain.

RJ Pilot 12-11-2014 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1781104)
Does anyone else think the the "good luck" that RJ writes after every single post is by far the most infuriating this he's ever done.

I guess he can say that now since he's a GV captain.

Waiting on *** to chime in.You guys need the luck to survive.

Good Luck.

chignutsak 12-11-2014 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by pagey (Post 1781104)
Does anyone else think the the "good luck" that RJ writes after every single post is by far the most infuriating this he's ever done.

I guess he can say that now since he's a GV captain.

And I'm an SI swimsuit model.

pagey 12-11-2014 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by chignutsak (Post 1781120)
And I'm an SI swimsuit model.

And I'm married to one.....

That enjoys "sharing" with other SI models. :D

Grumpyaviator 12-11-2014 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1780662)
this is how it breaks down
1. your guaranteed 10-15% yes voters due to fear or weakness.
2. 12,500 bonus for captains. some who would not flow will now flow and use this money as a cushion for the pay cut. 10-15%
3. the flow enhancements which is not much different from what we have now but sounds good when you spin it. 10-15%
4. those who have been no votes are just beaten down like a wet dog. 10-15%
5. mid level seniority captains get the 12,500 dollars but have to wait for there turn to flow but if this passes then number 2 above with the senior pilots leave on the flow these captains move up on seniority better schedules and QOL while they wait to flow. 10-15%

this gives you somewhere between 50-75% that they are looking at as yes voters. even if you median it, 62.5% yes voters, thats what aag is looking at.

***** told you this himself?

eaglefly 12-11-2014 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1781105)
Waiting on *** to chime in.You guys need the luck to survive.

Good Luck.

No need to "chime in" as much as you do. That's because I don't fly for Envoy anymore unlike you. :rolleyes:

Good Luck. :D

Cubdriver 12-11-2014 01:03 PM

[mod note]

Cut it out with the real names folks. This is an anonymous bulletin board and will remain as such. Go to PMs to swap real names.

SnoJet440 12-11-2014 01:05 PM

This TA is worse than the rejected TA in every possible way.

Flow through: Rejected TA first 30 every month; minimum 360 a year.
Current TA; 50% or 30 whichever is less; 220 a year.

Profit Sharing: Rejected TA elimination of profit sharing was subject to the same concession by all other AE employess. Current TA has no such stipulation, it just gives up profit sharing.

PBS: Rejected TA pushed any obligation to ratify PBS until the 61st 175 delivery. This placed a financial incentive on the company to place the options here. Current TA delays PBS until the delivery of the 40th 175, thereby removing the incentive to place the options here.

I could go on, but you get the idea. How does this TA become endorsed by the MEC? It is a worse deal than what was rejected by a majority of our pilots and this MEC endorses it!!??

Is $12,500 enough to buy a sucker?


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