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DontEnvoyMe 12-11-2014 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1781357)
Please. Stand up for yourself. Everyone knew exactly what they were doing and the consequences the first and second time it was voted down. Hop on over to TSA and be a Captain, you can be in class next week.

Are you insane? After more than 25 hard earned years here I am making 120K here and you say I should go to TSA to be a 40K CA-Q-FO? And NEVER see another kids birthday off or holiday? YOU need a drug test.
The first and second time it was voted down our MEC gave us BAD INFORMATION, regarding a lot of things, mostly regarding the leverage we had. I for one, was not EVER going to throw away my job, IDIOT!



Originally Posted by tom11011 (Post 1781357)
: For all the PSA and PDT smack that's been layed down, think about your all your friends over at Republic, you basically are handing them a sh*t sandwich.

Like all those who left ENY to go to Trans States to be a Ca-Q-FO? LOL!!!! My heart bleeds for them!!!! LOL (S)

Saabs 12-11-2014 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by DontEnvoyMe (Post 1781506)
Are you insane? After more than 25 hard earned years here I am making 120K here and you say I should go to TSA to be a 40K CA-Q-FO? And NEVER see another kids birthday off or holiday? YOU need a drug test.
The first and second time it was voted down our MEC gave us BAD INFORMATION, regarding a lot of things, mostly regarding the leverage we had. I for one, was not EVER going to throw away my job, IDIOT!


Like all those who left ENY to go to Trans States to be a Ca-Q-FO? LOL!!!! My heart bleeds for them!!!! LOL (S)

25 years there? you are the insane one!!!!

DontEnvoyMe 12-11-2014 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Saabs (Post 1781511)
25 years there? you are the insane one!!!!

Maybe, but if true, is that really any of your damn business, and do you really want to **** me off?

V1 ROT8 12-11-2014 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1781046)
Where's Diva, V1Rot8 and old JDT8 been?? Crickets after running there mouths forever about Piedmont's TA.

Why would I come in here and "run my mouth" when it obviously falls on deaf ears. In case you haven't noticed it's the holiday season and I have a wife and two kids who I'd rather be enjoying time with than trying to educate the clueless or lament the sad state of AAG's feeders. Thanks for the shout out, though.

PDT, PSA, and ALPA put us in this situation, period. I stand by my previous convictions and will vote accordingly. Don't be surprised, though, if many at Envoy vote to theoretically save their jobs since it's clear you won't stand with us. Enjoy those "shiny" 145s :rolleyes:

Merry Christmas, I think you're sh*****'s full!

PDTpilotXX 12-11-2014 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 1781557)
Why would I come in here and "run my mouth" when it obviously falls on deaf ears. In case you haven't noticed it's the holiday season and I have a wife and two kids who I'd rather be enjoying time with than trying to educate the clueless or lament the sad state of AAG's feeders. Thanks for the shout out, though.

PDT, PSA, and ALPA put us in this situation, period. I stand by my previous convictions and will vote accordingly. Don't be surprised, though, if many at Envoy vote to theoretically save their jobs since it's clear you won't stand with us. Enjoy those "shiny" 145s :rolleyes:

Merry Christmas, I think you're sh*****'s full!

Kinda reads like you're running your mouth now. Maybe you should place your blame with the EGL individuals (********, etc) that first pitched this idea to *** and got it stuck in his head that this was ok. After all, you have no problem blaming others for your houses problem.

IDG99 12-11-2014 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by VanDriver208 (Post 1781031)
When is the vote? Good luck to all the Envoy pilots. Do whats right for you.

Hey man. Like your Avatar:D

billyho 12-12-2014 12:30 AM


Originally Posted by V1 ROT8 (Post 1781557)
Why would I come in here and "run my mouth" when it obviously falls on deaf ears. In case you haven't noticed it's the holiday season and I have a wife and two kids who I'd rather be enjoying time with than trying to educate the clueless or lament the sad state of AAG's feeders. Thanks for the shout out, though.

PDT, PSA, and ALPA put us in this situation, period. I stand by my previous convictions and will vote accordingly. Don't be surprised, though, if many at Envoy vote to theoretically save their jobs since it's clear you won't stand with us. Enjoy those "shiny" 145s :rolleyes:

Merry Christmas, I think you're sh*****'s full!

LOL, we'll during the Piedmont TA you sure spent less time with your Wife and 2 kids.

Oh so now it's our fault all the sudden you are voting yes. And no we don't want your 145's. Never have and never will.

chignutsak 12-12-2014 03:20 AM

State of the regionals: just give up when Parker and his ilk come knocking. Why waste time? Save your careers! When billionaires plead poverty, just roll over.

Did I get it right?

tom11011 12-12-2014 03:49 AM


Originally Posted by DontEnvoyMe (Post 1781506)
Are you insane? After more than 25 hard earned years here I am making 120K here and you say I should go to TSA to be a 40K CA-Q-FO? And NEVER see another kids birthday off or holiday? YOU need a drug test.
The first and second time it was voted down our MEC gave us BAD INFORMATION, regarding a lot of things, mostly regarding the leverage we had. I for one, was not EVER going to throw away my job, IDIOT!


Like all those who left ENY to go to Trans States to be a Ca-Q-FO? LOL!!!! My heart bleeds for them!!!! LOL (S)

Yeah maybe we should have a serious talk about who is really insane. Envoy is going out one way or the other so you better start getting your logbook added up and fresh resumes out. American doesn't want you on the payscale, they want you flowed out of there. They've just begun to dismantle you. You as a 25 year Captain cannot fly one flight without an FO sitting next to you and those are going to be harder and harder to find.

Bad information you say? Your MEC is you, just a bunch of pilots. You've been there 25 years, where was your experience when it was needed most?

Your heart may bleed but maybe you should examine your role in all this.

buddies8 12-12-2014 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by chignutsak (Post 1781587)
State of the regionals: just give up when Parker and his ilk come knocking. Why waste time? Save your careers! When billionaires plead poverty, just roll over.

Did I get it right?

you most certainly did get it right.


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