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billyho 12-25-2014 06:39 AM


Originally Posted by rickt86 (Post 1790339)
That's cool brah

I'd rather see people come here than goto a true crum hole like Mesa. Take your emotions aside and realize this wasn't a huge give us and compare our rates and contract to gojet or Mesa. It is what it is.


Now how funny is that? Comparing Envoy now to GoJet's and Mesa! Winning!!

squawkoff 12-25-2014 06:52 AM

Rickt86,

How soon will Envoy start training for the 175? I assume that you will hire into the 145 until you get the initial cadre of current pilots trained and then new hires will go straight into the 175. If you get some new folks come to Envoy with a bad case of new SJS thinking they are going into the 175 aren't you worried that initially when the new hires arrive and they pick their base and equipment and they see their only choice is the 145 that they won't get up and walk out? Or do you still inform the new hires what bases and equipment is available prior to class? If they decide to take the class and bases/equipment offered and wait till they are displaced they will see new folks junior to them being hired off the street going straight to the 175. I don't know the answer to this dilemma (if it is) but just seems like something that needs to be considered and managed by your recruiting department. Just an observation.

billyho 12-25-2014 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by squawkoff (Post 1790349)
Rickt86,

How soon will Envoy start training for the 175? I assume that you will hire into the 145 until you get the initial cadre of current pilots trained and then new hires will go straight into the 175. If you get some new folks come to Envoy with a bad case of new SJS thinking they are going into the 175 aren't you worried that initially when the new hires arrive and they pick their base and equipment and they see their only choice is the 145 that they won't get up and walk out? Or do you still inform the new hires what bases and equipment is available prior to class? If they decide to take the class and bases/equipment offered and wait till they are displaced they will see new folks junior to them being hired off the street going straight to the 175. I don't know the answer to this dilemma (if it is) but just seems like something that needs to be considered and managed by your recruiting department. Just an observation.

Come on man! Hell at Mainline when we get there we aren't told our base or equipment. If you get up and leave because you got the 145 instead of the 175?? Hahahahah that's some sad childish stuff there. You knew all there bases and equipment coming in didn't you? Anyone who walks out I'd laugh and say don't let the door hit you in the a$$ as you walk out. That's a blessing for Envoy because that shows what a douche bag of an employee they just watched walk out the door and they'll be much better off without them.

Kids these days!! Damn!! You want someone to hold your hand while you pee?

JohnnyDingus 12-25-2014 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by billyho (Post 1790354)
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You want someone to hold your hand while you pee?

Yes please

tall guy 12-25-2014 07:21 AM

Are type ratings awarded out of training for a cfi coming in with 1500 hours and a atp. And if so how long would a new hire fly the 145 or the 700 before transitioning to the 175 as a new FO?

chrisreedrules 12-25-2014 07:49 AM

You people are asking questions they don't know the answer to.

AtlCSIP 12-25-2014 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by weekendflyer (Post 1788934)
Scabs! All that crap you gave psa, look at you now...

They are NOT scabs!! Please be careful with that word. I don't agree with how things went for them, but they are not scabs.

crflyer 12-25-2014 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by tall guy (Post 1790368)
Are type ratings awarded out of training for a cfi coming in with 1500 hours and a atp. And if so how long would a new hire fly the 145 or the 700 before transitioning to the 175 as a new FO?

1) You're a CFI, you should be able to answer your own question. 2) Does it really matter?

motormadness 12-25-2014 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by crflyer (Post 1790377)
1) You're a CFI, you should be able to answer your own question. 2) Does it really matter?

SJS. So yes, it does matter to him.

zondaracer 12-25-2014 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by tall guy (Post 1790368)
Are type ratings awarded out of training for a cfi coming in with 1500 hours and a atp. And if so how long would a new hire fly the 145 or the 700 before transitioning to the 175 as a new FO?

Type ratings are required. Not just SIC type ratings but PIC type ratings. If you don't have your ATP, the company will get that for you. New ATP rules.


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