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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader (Post 1789210)

There is nothing that stops them from paying bonuses. Our DO just sent out an email alluding to the very notion. We already offer $10k Signon bonuses for college programs and also give them full benefits, including flight bennies.

Unless it's in the contract, there's EVERYTHING to stop them from unilaterally choosing to pay SOME pilots more than others.

The only reason management has gotten away with it in the recent past is because the bankruptcy court LET THEM get a way with it.

Now that there's no bankruptcy-forced contract in effect, management can't simply decide that they want to pay certain pilots more than others. Pilot pay is contractual, period!

They can't simply decide that they want to give some pilots more pay, even if that pay is in the form of a bonus.

Ask the IRS if they view "bonuses" to be different than any other regular form of income and see what they say.

Since the TA has been voted in can anyone post the new 175 rates for CA/FO and YoS

I dunno what crack you are smokin sport but the guy above got it right, and it is pretty simple: the union cannot do anything about someone not on the property yet.

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Originally Posted by wiz5422 (Post 1789052)

Envoy didn't vote in concessions to grab aircraft slated for another airline, that was PSA. Envoy voted in concessions for aircraft that was always slated for them, big difference. Sad day indeed because this is the straw that broke the camels back and the camel is the future career as a successful airline pilot. This industry is pathetic.

You are so confused after the nightmare you put yourself through. You should be happy you still have a job after what YOU did last year, damn FNG.

You're completely full of garbage!!

You don't even know the facts. You aren't privy to the information, and all you do is assume.

News flash, you just ate a giant turd sandwich after capitulating. All for nought. Don't blame anyone but yourself. The deal you are getting now is way worse than any deal offered after PSA, or any other airline. You are one of the #1 burn it down goons.

I just hope the people who you brought down with your stupidity don't suffer too much with all the hiring going on.

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Originally Posted by djrogs03 (Post 1789245)

Since the TA has been voted in can anyone post the new 175 rates for CA/FO and YoS

Same as the CRJ700

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Originally Posted by RoughLandings (Post 1789169)

Compass pilots were most assuredly NOT salivating over the last 40 175s. We got gains in nearly every aspect of our newest contract - modest, yes, but we hardly conceded anything. Nobody here wanted the 20 that are on the way either.

Would you mind bullet pointing the gains for those of us not privy to the contract?

Way to go eny pilots......Way to go...... The whole industry is very dissapointed on you guys. Its a shame. Now Compass can't fly those Ejets.

Good Luck.

Envoy pilots look like the biggest a**holes right now. After all that crap you gave everyone. You guys were ready to see psa, pdt and other guys lose there jobs for your own selfish needs. Look at ya now!

They stabbed those new hires that aren't even in property yet. Shame on you!

Good Luck.

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Originally Posted by thevagabond (Post 1789300)

Would you mind bullet pointing the gains for those of us not privy to the contract?

Gladly,
Pay raises in each year of the deal, increased vacation time, higher sick time accrual, increased per diem, better deadhead and min day pay, these are just a few, keep in mind we took gains in almost every area during a time when most airlines 9E and PSA were taking concessions...