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gojo 01-15-2015 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by unity2015 (Post 1804567)
Most regionals dont have acars so some pilots mess with the departure times even though they close the door 15 minutes late they put on time..I hear from agents all the time, thats why they like to work other carriers cause they dont get a delay even if they close the flight out late it shows on time on the pilots paperwork :D

Really, which ones don't????

unity2015 01-15-2015 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1804634)
Really, which ones don't????

Thats my point the on time stats for regionals is a joke..I hear pilots talking trash because envoy is last on the on time rankings..:cool:

Crawl 01-15-2015 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by unity2015 (Post 1804711)
Thats my point the on time stats for regionals is a joke..I hear pilots talking trash because envoy is last on the on time rankings..:cool:

Before I came to envoy I worked for a smaller regional with no ACARS and almost every flight blocked out "ten early" and blocked in "ten late" - still in the A+14 "on time arrival window" but more flight time logged/block or better pay... but not MY flights :cool:

N927EV 01-15-2015 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Crawl (Post 1804731)
Before I came to envoy I worked for a smaller regional with no ACARS and almost every flight blocked out "ten early" and blocked in "ten late" - still in the A+14 "on time arrival window" but more flight time logged/block or better pay... but not MY flights :cool:

I've "heard" the ATR was a time machine and was always on time. Even when it was late.

CRJ900LR 01-15-2015 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by unity2015 (Post 1804567)
Most regionals dont have acars so some pilots mess with the departure times even though they close the door 15 minutes late they put on time..I hear from agents all the time, thats why they like to work other carriers cause they dont get a delay even if they close the flight out late it shows on time on the pilots paperwork :D


Air Midwest was notorious for that back when they were around with the Beech 1900D's.

snippercr 01-16-2015 08:27 AM


Originally Posted by Swedish Blender (Post 1803669)
I wonder if RJ pilot would put up his route from coast out, STAR and arrival runway. Should be easy enough if he did fly to Hono.

Gotta wait - I heard he has a nice weekend going into EDDI in Germany. Beer and Brats!

boiler07 01-16-2015 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by N927EV (Post 1804776)
I've "heard" the ATR was a time machine and was always on time. Even when it was late.

I "heard" the same.

gojo 01-16-2015 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by unity2015 (Post 1804711)
Thats my point the on time stats for regionals is a joke..I hear pilots talking trash because envoy is last on the on time rankings..:cool:

Ok, I guess I should've been more specific with my question. In today's world, specifically those that are opperating jets, which ones don't have Acars?

u4gotthecoffee 02-18-2015 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1804525)
Maybe the eagle/envoy as we know it, but once it shrinks down to an appropriate size (~100 airframes, 1300-1500 pilots), the flow will catch up and upgrade times will drop. Not soon enough for anyone on property or possibly even in basic flight training but it wont always be the 10 year upgrade it has been known for. Then the flow will be enough to attract people, especially with the pipeline program where if you are hired as a pipeline instructor, you are already an AA pilot with this new TA.

That time of offer is pretty good especially when majors continue hiring (again, 5-10 year timeline) but there are plenty of RJ captains with their 1000 TPIC time.

Again - none of this effects people currently on property as first we have to shrink to that size.

Any idea how many pilots are on property right now?

If I stick with this aviation thing (I'm at my commercial/instrument SEL) I project I'll be there in 3 years via the US aviation academy instructor pipeline program. Still too early to hope for things to be better by then?

Also, (granted no 9/11's, economic collapses, or the discovery of teleportation) I suspect it would take me around 8 years to flow (480/5 per month). Do you think it would take more or less time to flow in reality, or are my expectations realistic?

FirstClass 02-18-2015 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by u4gotthecoffee (Post 1827706)
Any idea how many pilots are on property right now?

If I stick with this aviation thing (I'm at my commercial/instrument SEL) I project I'll be there in 3 years via the US aviation academy instructor pipeline program. Still too early to hope for things to be better by then?

Also, (granted no 9/11's, economic collapses, or the discovery of teleportation) I suspect it would take me around 8 years to flow (480/5 per month). Do you think it would take more or less time to flow in reality, or are my expectations realistic?

Your guess is as good as anyone's. The only thing I know for sure is that in 3 years regional airlines will not look at all like they do today. There won't be anyone around to fly those airplanes, hopefully all the airplanes and pilots will be absorbed by mainline airlines.


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