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buddies8 01-14-2015 12:41 PM

Name me one employee of the line who cares if envoy is last. We don't care, not in my job dedcription

Swedish Blender 01-14-2015 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1803563)
But don't stop trying! I will say your PNHL auto correct iPhone deflection has been one of your best ones ever since you started the whole GV story.

I wonder if RJ pilot would put up his route from coast out, STAR and arrival runway. Should be easy enough if he did fly to Hono.

SuperChamp 01-15-2015 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by CAPTAINPCL (Post 1789667)
I've said it before and I still believe it to be true; The first Major airline to lock down its regional pilots with a pure flow will be the winner. Looks like American is leading the pack!

DL and UA better up the ante!

Bzzt 01-15-2015 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by SuperChamp (Post 1804279)
DL and UA better up the ante!

I don't think this flow will save Envoy. I also believe the premise that flows will be necessary to attract new hires in the near future, but Envoy is too far gone.

snippercr 01-15-2015 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1804285)
I don't think this flow will save Envoy. I also believe the premise that flows will be necessary to attract new hires in the near future, but Envoy is too far gone.

Maybe the eagle/envoy as we know it, but once it shrinks down to an appropriate size (~100 airframes, 1300-1500 pilots), the flow will catch up and upgrade times will drop. Not soon enough for anyone on property or possibly even in basic flight training but it wont always be the 10 year upgrade it has been known for. Then the flow will be enough to attract people, especially with the pipeline program where if you are hired as a pipeline instructor, you are already an AA pilot with this new TA.

That time of offer is pretty good especially when majors continue hiring (again, 5-10 year timeline) but there are plenty of RJ captains with their 1000 TPIC time.

Again - none of this effects people currently on property as first we have to shrink to that size.

Bzzt 01-15-2015 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1804525)
Maybe the eagle/envoy as we know it, but once it shrinks down to an appropriate size (~100 airframes, 1300-1500 pilots), the flow will catch up and upgrade times will drop. Not soon enough for anyone on property or possibly even in basic flight training but it wont always be the 10 year upgrade it has been known for. Then the flow will be enough to attract people, especially with the pipeline program where if you are hired as a pipeline instructor, you are already an AA pilot with this new TA.

That time of offer is pretty good especially when majors continue hiring (again, 5-10 year timeline) but there are plenty of RJ captains with their 1000 TPIC time.

Again - none of this effects people currently on property as first we have to shrink to that size.

That's probably accurate. Envoy may be the place to go 10 years from now.

unity2015 01-15-2015 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 1803307)
AirTran tops US airlines at on-time arrivals, Envoy is last

The complete implosion of envoy continues.

Most regionals dont have acars so some pilots mess with the departure times even though they close the door 15 minutes late they put on time..I hear from agents all the time, thats why they like to work other carriers cause they dont get a delay even if they close the flight out late it shows on time on the pilots paperwork :D

unity2015 01-15-2015 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by SkylineAviation (Post 1803307)
AirTran tops US airlines at on-time arrivals, Envoy is last

The complete implosion of envoy continues.

Acars
Are we the only regional with Acars ? Agents tell me that some regionals
that depart late will say its a on time departure...

AdiosMikeFox 01-15-2015 02:42 PM

There's plenty of cheating going on at non-acars regionals.

Natca 01-15-2015 02:47 PM

You also have airplanes that can cheat block outs too


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