Envoy/AAG/ALPA pay negotiations
02-25-2015, 02:42 PM
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Envoy/AAG/ALPA pay negotiations
Rumor has it ALPA and envoy/AAG management are in the process of trying to negotiate retention bonuses in hopes of stopping the massive amount of blood loss at envoy due to attrition. Hearing that they will be in the ball park of $20,000 with different stipulations for FOs and CAs with some time specific intervals based on longevity, seniority, flow, upgrade etc,.
ALPA has expressed interest in a 5 year buyout option for CAs maxed out at 18 years at different ages decreasing the yearly buyouts as the target ages. Basically, the older you are the less will be offered due to your limited time left on the seniority list. The company has of course countered with significantly less, somewhere in the two year range.
ALPA has expressed interest in a 5 year buyout option for CAs maxed out at 18 years at different ages decreasing the yearly buyouts as the target ages. Basically, the older you are the less will be offered due to your limited time left on the seniority list. The company has of course countered with significantly less, somewhere in the two year range.
02-25-2015, 02:49 PM
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what position would your source have??
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02-25-2015, 03:25 PM
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Hogwash. Complete hogwash.
02-25-2015, 04:14 PM
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My well wishes don't affect anything, but good luck hombres! Hope you get something good!
02-25-2015, 04:32 PM
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BS flag on the play. No source, player spread eagle. 5 internet penalty, still 4th down.
02-25-2015, 05:26 PM
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Why would they want to retain people if they are getting rid of all the crjs and a lot of the small embraers?
If I was there and wanted to work for AA I'd bail.
If I was there and wanted to work for AA I'd bail.
02-25-2015, 05:42 PM
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Why would alpa get involved in pilots leaving one alpa carrier for another? Why even care at this point. Envoys wants to give retirement buyouts, that's there prerogative, I don't see alpa needing to be involved.
02-25-2015, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Why would alpa get involved in pilots leaving one alpa carrier for another?
Why even care at this point. Envoys wants to give retirement buyouts, that's there prerogative, I don't see alpa needing to be involved.
02-25-2015, 07:00 PM
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I know it sucks for those living it, but I always get giddy when I see management screw up so badly like this and the operation goes to hell. Hilarious.
FWIW I'm laughing at Delta's screw up with Endeavor as well.
They are about a decade late trying to squeeze the commuters, there's a lot less pilots now coming in at the bottom.
FWIW I'm laughing at Delta's screw up with Endeavor as well.
They are about a decade late trying to squeeze the commuters, there's a lot less pilots now coming in at the bottom.
02-25-2015, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Name User
I know it sucks for those living it, but I always get giddy when I see management screw up so badly like this and the operation goes to hell. Hilarious.
FWIW I'm laughing at Delta's screw up with Endeavor as well.
They are about a decade late trying to squeeze the commuters, there's a lot less pilots now coming in at the bottom.
FWIW I'm laughing at Delta's screw up with Endeavor as well.
They are about a decade late trying to squeeze the commuters, there's a lot less pilots now coming in at the bottom.
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