No retention bonus at envoy
04-02-2015, 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
Yup. There is nobody that doubts this. With the upcoming arbitration and the discussion of increasing the SSP that are happening at the same time, they will obviously be hitting us with something else. No one trusts AAG.
(and...it really takes a special person to wish ill-will on another pilot group)
(and...it really takes a special person to wish ill-will on another pilot group)
Increased SSP? Haaaa. Doesn't sound likely.
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04-02-2015, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
That sucks. How many active pilots currently on property?
And let me guess..they are still hiring.
And let me guess..they are still hiring.
04-02-2015, 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
We have an especially negative term for people like this...management.
04-02-2015, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
That sucks. How many active pilots currently on property?
And let me guess..they are still hiring.
And let me guess..they are still hiring.
04-02-2015, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RJ Pilot
Whats the big Cujo working on now? Something along the lines of CA's displacements deal its my bet. After all, he is one of the first to go back to FO.
Oh yeah, along with the rest of the MEC.
Goodluck!
Oh yeah, along with the rest of the MEC.
Goodluck!
And to contribute to the thread, no email as of yet. Probably under review. If Im thinking where the OP got his info from, I don't think that it's officially off the table. It sounds like (or I should say I'm hoping) he's calling their bluff again. Saying that this whole retention plan is just an illusion to keep us here longer. We'll see soon.
04-02-2015, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by N927EV
Interesting you know so much about and care so much about envoy. Considering the fact that you're "flying a GIV" to non existent airports and getting paid way, way above the average rate of GIV pilot.
And to contribute to the thread, no email as of yet. Probably under review. If Im thinking where the OP got his info from, I don't think that it's officially off the table. It sounds like (or I should say I'm hoping) he's calling their bluff again. Saying that this whole retention plan is just an illusion to keep us here longer. We'll see soon.
And to contribute to the thread, no email as of yet. Probably under review. If Im thinking where the OP got his info from, I don't think that it's officially off the table. It sounds like (or I should say I'm hoping) he's calling their bluff again. Saying that this whole retention plan is just an illusion to keep us here longer. We'll see soon.
As for officially off the table, I have no other information but the union needs to get it out there that it IS off the table. I think too many people who have been beat down these past 4-5 years with a never ending trail of bad news are just clinging to any hope. I know on a few occasions I have. It needs to be crushed and destroyed. There is no retention program and there never will be.
04-02-2015, 07:34 AM
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no one is waiting for a retention bonus. if you are at envoy as an f/o and approaching three years seniority and live around NYC and dont want to commute to ORD or DFW then Endeavor is a option, by 2018 if you get hired today, you will be 40 thousand dollars ahead than you would be at eagle and off reserve faster also.
those flowing in the next three years, short of all hiring stopping at aa, they are not leaving. they will wait for the flow.
in between these two groups is anyones guess.
those flowing in the next three years, short of all hiring stopping at aa, they are not leaving. they will wait for the flow.
in between these two groups is anyones guess.
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