Envoy to keep CRJs longer
06-05-2015, 05:15 PM
#71
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Originally Posted by m78fl370
Yeah, it's unbelievable. When he's not machine gunning negative posts on this board, he's trolling eaglelounge doing the exact same thing as "Thrustlever". Before that he was the multi-thousand poster "Lord Hummugus". That was when he was still just a lowly peon Eagle pilot.
Originally Posted by m78fl370
His problem is, he thinks he's smarter than everyone else. His comments all stem from his belief that every pilot at Envoy is just a gullible sap that he needs to talk down to, and set straight. He was stuck at eagle for far longer than he hoped, and if ANYONE shows any hope or optimism that it may work out better for them, he tries to shoot them down immediately. You're right, for someone who got to AA from Eagle via the flowthrough, you'd think he'd be a little more humble or have something a little more positive to say.
I guess this forum is just populated with a certain segment of Envoy pilots that are in the "get them here to get us out" camp and are willing to sell anything to do that. I can tell you MANY at Envoy aren't in that camp who aren't on this forum. In all honesty though, some of your criticisms of my frequent presence here are not in vain. Just yesterday, I had someone ask me why I care enough about pilots in general and Envoy pilots in particular to rebut all the B.S. being spouted here and that most of those at Envoy are proven idiots anyway, so why care ?
All I could say was I don't want others to be led down false paths and that there ARE pilots at Envoy who deserve to consider other angles then just the Pollyanna one from a half dozen or so spin masters on this forum. In that respect, guilty as charged. It's funny........Cujo665 supposedly is on multiple forums "machine gunning" posts and the Crusader easily falls into that mold here, yet they are apparently just fine. I can also guess it's really about a message you agree with, rather then the messenger when you perceive others. Sadly, that's one of the biggest weaknesses in the Envoy pilot group and it appears to be alive and well. Considering that, one can only wince at the future of such a hapless band of misguided characters.
06-05-2015, 06:19 PM
#72
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Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
Correct. Also another 20 Capts selected to flow today.
Originally Posted by jdflyer1999
BTW there is more good news coming.
Keep your carrot (and the attached stick). We want meat.
06-05-2015, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot
PSA pilots are called scabs by envoy pilots for voting in a decent contract that allowed massive movement at their airline.
Envoy is drooling over flying Republics 175s (that republic actually purchased and owns).
Mmm hypocrisy
Edit:
What about the 140s still being parked and 145s that are going to TSA and XJT?
Envoy is drooling over flying Republics 175s (that republic actually purchased and owns).
Mmm hypocrisy
Edit:
What about the 140s still being parked and 145s that are going to TSA and XJT?
06-05-2015, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowa Farm Boy
No, there weren't.
Really. Is that you, Mason, err...
Keep your carrot (and the attached stick). We want meat.
Really. Is that you, Mason, err...
Keep your carrot (and the attached stick). We want meat.
06-05-2015, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Shiner
It's important to remember that Envoy (PSA, and PDT) are wholly owned. What we have here somewhat mirrors the situation at Endeavor. They signed a bankruptcy deal, got shrunk, and are now back on the upswing with 80k bonuses to every pilot on property. AAG knows this and is playing their hand accordingly. This announcement is just the beginning.
I don't think you'll see 80k in bonuses at the AAG wholly owned's though. I think they have something much bigger and more of a long term solution in the works. And it involves a cradle to grave type of approach, not just a short term bonus. I know that AA or Parker hasn't ever been called innovative, but I think they could be soon.
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I don't think you'll see 80k in bonuses at the AAG wholly owned's though. I think they have something much bigger and more of a long term solution in the works. And it involves a cradle to grave type of approach, not just a short term bonus. I know that AA or Parker hasn't ever been called innovative, but I think they could be soon.
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06-05-2015, 08:40 PM
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OMG I was so ****ed today after hearing this news. I marched into the chief pilots office and was like *** is going on here, we have a whole gaggle of new hire pilots here who specifically came here because we were taking 17 of Envoys 700's this month. I started throwing stuff around his office. I then marched next door to the crew room and knocked over the vending machine shattering the glass. I punched two holes in the wall too. Now the crew room needs to be remodeled. In any event, they fired me this afternoon so I hope you are happy f*ckers!!!! I just can't deal with this stress anymore.
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