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seafeye 08-01-2015 06:04 AM

Keep drinking....

AdiosMikeFox 08-01-2015 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by eschukos (Post 1941533)
The real value to mainline, is in pilot recruitment. As long as the flow is working as advertised AAG will have no problem staffing its in house regional feed. As long as the prospect of flowing to AA is attracting new pilots, The flow will continue.


Mainline doesn't need help recruiting pilots.

As far as staffing the feed, it doesn't seem like you've been paying much attention to the hiring trends lately.

Which regionals have the fullest classes?

The ones that are getting new aircraft and the ones that put out the appearance of having the quickest path to upgrade. Now, one could probably make an argument about hiring standards, but regardless, the fullest classes are at the carriers that appear to have the most movement and growth.

Do some of them have flows? Yes...but compared to Envoy's flow the others are crap (or, just more crappy than Envoy's anyway), so it ought to be obvious that pilot candidates are interested in upgrade and growth, not a flow. Two things that were being offered by two out of its three in-house carriers. Envoy has a very poor hiring record for the last couple of years despite having a good flow.

Upgrades and SJS are the winners.

RJ Pilot 08-01-2015 06:40 AM

Are they done with the 824 flowing? Me thinks that those past that group can kiss the flow bye.


Good Luck!

snippercr 08-01-2015 06:47 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1941550)
Are they done with the 824 flowing? Me thinks that those past that group can kiss the flow bye.


Good Luck!

Come on, you have bud's over there - you can ask them! Oh but I bet they are all lifers who passed on the flow right.

Hey RJ Pilot, ask me if I've upgraded yet! Flying into anymore closed airports?

RJ Pilot 08-01-2015 07:04 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1941555)
Come on, you have bud's over there - you can ask them! Oh but I bet they are all lifers who passed on the flow right.

Hey RJ Pilot, ask me if I've upgraded yet! Flying into anymore closed airports?

Yes, my sources are friends that passed the flow. Why give up a 120K a year job with QOL to go on reserve at AA?

Good Luck!

snippercr 08-01-2015 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1941566)
Yes, my sources are friends that passed the flow. Why give up a 120K a year job with QOL to go on reserve at AA?

Good Luck!

I dunno, flying a GV into closed airports seems like a hoot. Why havent you given them the hook ups? Some friend you are... Im sure youre the CEO of "RJ Pilot Flight Ops" and can give them their own CA position. Rumors of the new Global Express true?

RJ Pilot 08-01-2015 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by snippercr (Post 1941576)
I dunno, flying a GV into closed airports seems like a hoot. Why havent you given them the hook ups? Some friend you are... Im sure youre the CEO of "RJ Pilot Flight Ops" and can give them their own CA position. Rumors of the new Global Express true?

Why the attacks? I just asked a simple question about flows.


Good Luck!

snippercr 08-01-2015 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1941591)
Why the attacks? I just asked a simple question about flows.


Good Luck!

Attacks? I just assume someone as generous as a person who wishes people good luck at the end of every post would be bending over backwards to help out their buds! No attacks at all buddy! I know you have their best interests in mind because you wish us all good luck and you don't even know us!

Oh...and good luck :D

Super EZ E 08-02-2015 07:25 AM

hope that works out, AA has a tendency to change the rules in the middle of the game. They want flow because AA knows it's getting harder and harder to find pilots and is concerned in the next few years AA and every other is major is going to have and issue with hiring pilots.

Buzzlightyear 08-02-2015 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1941566)
Yes, my sources are friends that passed the flow. Why give up a 120K a year job with QOL to go on reserve at AA?

Good Luck!

Friend of mine has close to two years seniority at AA. He's 40% up the S80 list holding partial weekends off, 3 day trips, making more than he did when he left Eagle.


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