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jdflyer1999 08-19-2015 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1952494)
You are right. The boss is considering a 7X.


Good Luck!

Tell the boss it's not that expensive
http://www.wilcopub.com/falcon-7x-fsx-p3d-6853.html

HobGoblin 08-19-2015 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1952580)
For CA's or FO's?

Good Luck!

Oh I imagine it's longer for captains

RJ Pilot 08-19-2015 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by HobGoblin (Post 1952588)
Oh I imagine it's longer for captains

That stinks!

Good Luck!

use2fly 08-19-2015 01:22 PM

Why do y'all continue to respond to RJ? You are wasting your time and filling my screen with lots of lines that say "This user is on your Ignore List". Stop responding to this child. PLEASE!

HobGoblin 08-19-2015 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by use2fly (Post 1952624)
Why do y'all continue to respond to RJ? You are wasting your time and filling my screen with lots of lines that say "This user is on your Ignore List". Stop responding to this child. PLEASE!

In this one small exception, he had a valid question. I didn't specify that reserve FO is at 4 years, where as I imagine the time for captains to hold a line exceeds 4 years after upgrades. He's still a tit.

RyanP 08-19-2015 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by HobGoblin (Post 1952677)
In this one small exception, he had a valid question. I didn't specify that reserve FO is at 4 years, where as I imagine the time for captains to hold a line exceeds 4 years after upgrades. He's still a tit.

Newly upgraded CA's will never hold a line with the shrinkage and lifers. So that makes the math pretty easy. I have been a CA for 2 years and am bottom RSV still. Can't hold anything I choose, can't get anything I proffer for, or get any days off I want. Progress forward is ZERO as more people are on RSV above me each month, not less.

So you can stay a senior FO and have a life amd be broke, or upgrade and have 7 days off a month, never see a weekend off again, get a trickle of PIC time and make more money. Both choices pretty much suck.

eaglefly 08-19-2015 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1952695)
Newly upgraded CA's will never hold a line with the shrinkage and lifers. So that makes the math pretty easy. I have been a CA for 2 years and am bottom RSV still. Can't hold anything I choose, can't get anything I proffer for, or get any days off I want. Progress forward is ZERO as more people are on RSV above me each month, not less.

So you can stay a senior FO and have a life amd be broke, or upgrade and have 7 days off a month, never see a weekend off again, get a trickle of PIC time and make more money. Both choices pretty much suck.

But with your seniority, one of your reps insists you'll be at AA very soon. If it is supposed to take 6 years for today's Envoy new-hire, you should be sitting pretty at AA in 2 years or so.

According to this source, considering AA retirements, nothing can go wrong and your future is assured.

RJ Pilot 08-19-2015 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by RyanP (Post 1952695)
Newly upgraded CA's will never hold a line with the shrinkage and lifers. So that makes the math pretty easy. I have been a CA for 2 years and am bottom RSV still. Can't hold anything I choose, can't get anything I proffer for, or get any days off I want. Progress forward is ZERO as more people are on RSV above me each month, not less.

So you can stay a senior FO and have a life amd be broke, or upgrade and have 7 days off a month, never see a weekend off again, get a trickle of PIC time and make more money. Both choices pretty much suck.

Why don't you run for a cushy Union position? You can get all those perks (while on Captains pay) by basically doing nothing. Holidays off/ weekends off.

Good Luck!

Al Czervik 08-19-2015 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1952494)
You are right. The boss is considering a 7X.


Good Luck!

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Cujo665 08-19-2015 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1952443)
Increase Flow? Your pilots are touting 17-18 flows a month for the rest of the year. Same or less actually for next year due to the increase on recalls.

Good Luck!

Which is still more than the 50%. They're doing 68% currently.

They say Next year is projected to be 240-250 flows from ENY. So far they've done better than agreed.... Which is more than we can say for you


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